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Old 06-05-2008, 08:52 PM
 
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My 16 year old spends the night at a friends house and asked if he could
go to the movies with this friend driving. I said yes then later called the dad to ask who the other kid was that went. Found out that his kid did not have a license yet to drive after 9 or to have more than 1 kid in the car.(they had 5 total)
I told the dad I would go get my child because I did not want him in that situation. At the theater the boy told me he didn't know he did not have
his "after 9" (this is what we call the provisional stage one license)
I told him it was his responsibility to know and that his parents should also
know and be sure he is following the law.
The next day his mom calls me and I am expecting an apology. She is mad I "embarressed " her son and said she wanted me to know that
they do know the rules. I said "then that makes it worse to transport
other peoples kids knowingly and unlawfully"
makes me wonder what other laws they do not think are meant to be followed.
I wanted to say that when he has a wreck speeding it will be because they taught him to disobey the laws.

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Old 06-05-2008, 09:39 PM
 
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My 16 year old spends the night at a friends house and asked if he could
go to the movies with this friend driving. I said yes then later called the dad to ask who the other kid was that went. Found out that his kid did not have a license yet to drive after 9 or to have more than 1 kid in the car.(they had 5 total)
I told the dad I would go get my child because I did not want him in that situation. At the theater the boy told me he didn't know he did not have
his "after 9" (this is what we call the provisional stage one license)
I told him it was his responsibility to know and that his parents should also
know and be sure he is following the law.
The next day his mom calls me and I am expecting an apology. She is mad I "embarressed " her son and said she wanted me to know that
they do know the rules. I said "then that makes it worse to transport
other peoples kids knowingly and unlawfully"
makes me wonder what other laws they do not think are meant to be followed.
I wanted to say that when he has a wreck speeding it will be because they taught him to disobey the laws.
Some people just leave me speechless! She was more worried about you "embarrassing" her son (way to go by the way) then making sure her son was learning to be a responsible driver - AMAZING.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:46 PM
 
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Some people just leave me speechless! She was more worried about you "embarrassing" her son (way to go by the way) then making sure her son was learning to be a responsible driver - AMAZING.
Thanks for the support. It is so hard being the "uncool" parent!!!
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:01 PM
 
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There would have been no room for embarrasment had she taught her son to follow the rules. She would not have received an apology from me for her stupidity. How embarrassed would her son be be when he ends up with a ticket or his license revoked for driving with the improper permit?
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:20 PM
 
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There would have been no room for embarrasment had she taught her son to follow the rules. She would not have received an apology from me for her stupidity. How embarrassed would her son be be when he ends up with a ticket or his license revoked for driving with the improper permit?
Exactly!! The fact they choose to break the law with other people's kids in the car is what gets me. I have wondered if I should let the other parents of the kids that went know ??
My husband wanted to call a cop he knows and have the kid pulled on the way home. LOL Tempting !!
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:38 PM
 
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Exactly!! The fact they choose to break the law with other people's kids in the car is what gets me. I have wondered if I should let the other parents of the kids that went know ??
If you want to do that. Do it in conversation. Bring up how your son got in trouble for not telling you about his friend limited license. Go on about how worry you were that your son couldn't have been hurt with such an inexperience night driver, etc... That way you feel them out. If they think like the other people then you got to figure out what to do next. If they agree with you then you can add more details like time, day and location until they figure it out by themselves. That way you are not "telling".

BTW I am now scared of the day my kids reach that age.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:56 PM
 
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Its not that the kid is bad, it is just the law made it out like they are.

Would you have had a problem with this 10 or 20 years ago when there was no such law?

What if you lived in a state without the law, would it have bothered you?

Are you mad because someone broke the law? Or because your kid was with someone that age driving?
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:30 AM
 
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Kelly, good for you for following through with your kid. The other parent was a bit out of line for scolding you for embarrassing their son, they should be the ones who are embarrassed. The real situation is between is between you and your son. He knows you and your rules and probaby knew he shouldn't be riding with the other boy.
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Would you have had a problem with this 10 or 20 years ago when there was no such law?

What if you lived in a state without the law, would it have bothered you?
I think the point is that there is a law now and you want to teach your kids to follow the law. It isn't a debate about the merits of the law, or what you think of it. If you want to drive, you need to follow the rules of your state (or accept the consequence).
This is interesting because we just had a similar scenario regarding R rated movies tonight. My son (15)thinks it is a stupid restriction and wanted a note to allow him into the movie. Guess what my answer was
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:20 AM
 
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My 16 year old spends the night at a friends house and asked if he could
go to the movies with this friend driving. I said yes then later called the dad to ask who the other kid was that went. Found out that his kid did not have a license yet to drive after 9 or to have more than 1 kid in the car.(they had 5 total)
I told the dad I would go get my child because I did not want him in that situation. At the theater the boy told me he didn't know he did not have
his "after 9" (this is what we call the provisional stage one license)
I told him it was his responsibility to know and that his parents should also
know and be sure he is following the law.
The next day his mom calls me and I am expecting an apology. She is mad I "embarressed " her son and said she wanted me to know that
they do know the rules. I said "then that makes it worse to transport
other peoples kids knowingly and unlawfully"
makes me wonder what other laws they do not think are meant to be followed.
I wanted to say that when he has a wreck speeding it will be because they taught him to disobey the laws.
Wow I think I would have been ballistic on the B. How DARE she get mad at YOU!!!!
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Old 06-06-2008, 07:27 AM
 
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Good for you, Kelly! In my opinion, you were completely in the right. The other parents *knew* their son had a restricted license, both in time of day AND in number of occupants and STILL allowed him to transport? I would be livid!

It's the parents who should be embarrassed!

Does your son have a license? Is his friend about the same age? Does your son know when the friend got his license? If your son has his own license, I assume is aware of license restrictions on young drivers. Did he question his friend about driving after 9 and with so many people? If not, this is a learning experience for him, too.

Thank goodness the only bad consequence to this little adventure is a kid embarrassed. It could have been so much worse.
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