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some parents will ban-together and complain about most anything when is comes to thier kids. Makes me wonder if the teacher taought them some simple basic manners and then the kids took it home and said "mommy you have to say thank you!" "Daddy you aren't suppose to do THAT!" being repremend by ones child is not always easy to take especially when "some" parents don't believe in social behaviors.
Personally I was taught some social behaviors in school, at home, and through groups like Campfire Girls and Girl Scouts. I always thought School was a place of learning to live a good life, not just learn the basics. One should learn the courses to succeed in life but I think many will agree that to just learn lessons won't make you successful, what makes a person successful is know how to interact with other in a polite respectful manner.
Sad those few parents danned together in a since to stop thier kids from learning a new idea to them.
I think it is absolutely helpful for teachers to practice good manners and be good models of behavior, and I also think it is reasonable for an educator to establish a uniform code of behavior in his or her classroom -- that is, procedures for performing routine tasks, acceptable and unacceptable manners of behavior, and so on, but like others here, I do not believe such things should form part of the regular curriculum, nor do I think they should displace the teaching of core subjects.
I agree, but why would teaching simple manners have to displace anything? In everyday family life, isn't it concurrent with whatever's going on? For instance, a walk to the park:
"Aren't those flowers pretty, Luke? Which ones do you like best, the pink ones or the yellow ones? Oops, don't touch them, sweetie. Leave them alone so everybody can enjoy them. Okay, here we are at the park! Are you thirsty? Would you like a juice box? Hmmm, I don't understand 'yeah.' "Yes please"--thank you, I like that better. Honey, don't throw your juice on the ground. That's littering and messes up the park. Please go throw it away over there. Do you want to swing or slide?"
It's just woven in with talking to kids, gently correcting them as you go.
If by the age of 5-6ish kids haven't learned some social skills, manners in the home before they start school, thats sad. To expect the schools to teach kids there manners as well? Some social skills are learned by interacting with there piers, but manners, please.
it may be sad, but it is true..there are plenty of 5-6yr olds who don't know or don't use the best manners. Many families are too busy or just choose not to sit down at night together for dinner. Some kids eat in front of the TV. Some parents are way too tired at night and just want to get thru the meal. The parents may have even hinted at good manners,but when it's not a natural, everyday thing, it's hard to get as a habit. Plus, as I said, it boosts self confidence when children know the 'right things' to do, especially when someone comments "what nice manners you have"- boy kids will then go out of their way to say please and thank you, etc.! I remember sitting down at an awards dinner when I was a kid...I was so pleased when I knew to put the napkin on my lap, wait for the table to start eating, not taking more than I can eat,etc. I felt so grown up.
I agree, but why would teaching simple manners have to displace anything? In everyday family life, isn't it concurrent with whatever's going on? For instance, a walk to the park:
"Aren't those flowers pretty, Luke? Which ones do you like best, the pink ones or the yellow ones? Oops, don't touch them, sweetie. Leave them alone so everybody can enjoy them. Okay, here we are at the park! Are you thirsty? Would you like a juice box? Hmmm, I don't understand 'yeah.' "Yes please"--thank you, I like that better. Honey, don't throw your juice on the ground. That's littering and messes up the park. Please go throw it away over there. Do you want to swing or slide?"
It's just woven in with talking to kids, gently correcting them as you go.
I would agree and would hope that this would be the extent to which teachers are teaching manners -- by appropriate modeling and gentle guidance -- but from the OP (which I may have misread), it sounded like the issue was one of setting aside more significant blocks of time in the school day specifically for teaching manners.
i think parents are not doing their job.
i think the schools feed and raise the kids.
i think this needs to stop.
I was going to rep you but I have to spread some around first...
My question is... how would a parent expect their child to NOT learn any social behaviors - positive or negative - in school?
School is about more than reading, writing, and math. They are learning how to live out in the world away from their parents. Social interaction among groups of other human beings is an essential skill for living successfully in the real world. The parents need to be involved in this process of course from the very beginning, but school becomes a major player in this as well as children grow and develop. "It takes a village..."
Why would a parent get upset over their child having an opportunity to learn positive social behaviors or skills? That is so very odd!
In many schools social skills are taught for special ed. students.
For children with conditions like ASperger Syndrome, the simple act of interacting with a group is way beyond them. Therefore, it must be broken into small steps or 'proper group behavior' has to be modeled and taught.
The OP has so many friends and relatives in so many interesting and thought provoking situations. He/she/it never wants for 'another thrilling topic.'
Heh... try teaching the 3 R's to kids with no manners.
It will quickly become obvious that teaching manners and appropriate behavior is necessary if you hope to get any academics done. And yes, you might even have to set aside significant blocks of time for this if you otherwise aren't going to get anything done at all.
In many schools social skills are taught for special ed. students.
For children with conditions like ASperger Syndrome, the simple act of interacting with a group is way beyond them. Therefore, it must be broken into small steps or 'proper group behavior' has to be modeled and taught.
The OP has so many friends and relatives in so many interesting and thought provoking situations. He/she/it never wants for 'another thrilling topic.'
Had to laugh, they should have been in the entertainment industry, could make some great sitcoms.
I think they should actually get rid of most of what they commonly teach in school. Seriously...how much history does a person need to know? If I do not plan to be a scientist or even like science, why make me take 3 years of it? They should be teaching basic history, math, science, and english. As well as, Budgeting, banking, mannerism, networking and other social skills. Basically teach kids what they would need if they where tossed out into the world after high school.
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