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Old 10-21-2019, 02:28 AM
 
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On a side note I'm not saying what my networth is but I have NEVER invested in the SP 500 (yet). This is despite the fact that I'm probably more knowledgeable about the SP 500 then most people who have money in it.
Warren Buffett recommends 90% S&P500 stock index funds and 10% bonds so you should start soon.
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:04 AM
 
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A lot of paper millionaires out there... IMO until it’s relatively safe and liquid/near liquid then it’s just a number on paper.
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:07 AM
 
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A lot of paper millionaires out there... IMO until it’s relatively safe and liquid/near liquid then it’s just a number on paper.
i would disagree ... it is always your value whether realized or on paper ...the thought that just because your investment varies that at any point in time it is not what something is worth is rediculous .

in retirement your yearly draw is based on that snap shot or yearly snap shot ... all keeping money in play means is we hope it goes up from where it is .. maybe it will maybe it won't , but whatever that number is , is what it's worth ...

could someone with a million invested dip below ? sure they could , then they are no longer a millionaire ... the same as it was on the way up prior to hitting it .

most of us will never be less than 30-50% equities ever so this assumption for bench marking net worth is ridiculous . .

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Old 10-21-2019, 07:36 AM
 
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A lot of paper millionaires out there... IMO until it’s relatively safe and liquid/near liquid then it’s just a number on paper.
You are always welcome to make ridiculous statements and this is certainly one
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:51 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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So why aren't you a millionaire?
I'm not old enough.
Evidently, for someone with my skill set it is necessary to live at least two hundred years before such a milestone is met.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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You are always welcome to make ridiculous statements and this is certainly one
We’ll talk in 24 months boys then see how you still feel about my statement.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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We’ll talk in 24 months boys then see how you still feel about my statement.
And then have another chat three years later when stocks have recovered.

There will be disruptions, corrections, changes, but at a fundamental level as long as there is human activity there will be some sort of market, some sort of opportunity.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:40 AM
 
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We’ll talk in 24 months boys then see how you still feel about my statement.
why would anything change ? you are what you are at any point in time ... for most of us it will vary over the rest of our lives because in order to sustain at least a 4% draw inflation adjusted you will need at least 40% equities or so . but that does not change the fact your net worth is what it is .

don't confuse the fact you may not care at that point in time ... but i can tell you each year my draw is based on that portfolio value ... our state estate taxes are based on that value and if we wanted to take an asset based loan those values count .
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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We’ll talk in 24 months boys then see how you still feel about my statement.
What happened in the last 24 months to make you feel that the next 24 will be all that different?
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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why would anything change ? you are what you are at any point in time ... for most of us it will vary over the rest of our lives because in order to sustain at least a 4% draw inflation adjusted you will need at least 40% equities or so . but that does not change the fact your net worth is what it is .

don't confuse the fact you may not care at that point in time ... but i can tell you each year my draw is based on that portfolio value ... our state estate taxes are based on that value and if we wanted to take an asset based loan those values count .
You have state estate taxes?
How does that work; you mean they tax you on the net worth of your estate?!
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