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Old 02-24-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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I stumbled across this story today and I started to giggle a little because so many people with netflix was boasting about not needing cable anymore and now looked what happened??? LOL

Netflix reaches deal with Comcast | 6abc.com
huh? still don't need cable tv for netflix. i think you read it wrong or something.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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huh? still don't need cable tv for netflix. i think you read it wrong or something.
But you need *cable* or some other service that connects you to the Internet, right?

I think the point was even if you don't pay Comcast (or an equivalent) for TV content, you're still playing them for to connect to TV content.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:50 PM
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But you need *cable* or some other service that connects you to the Internet, right?

I think the point was even if you don't pay Comcast (or an equivalent) for TV content, you're still playing them for to connect to TV content.

That's the part they don't understand
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:50 AM
 
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But you need *cable* or some other service that connects you to the Internet, right?

I think the point was even if you don't pay Comcast (or an equivalent) for TV content, you're still playing them for to connect to TV content.
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That's the part they don't understand
But that's how it works now; you have to have an ISP to get internet access to watch Netflix. I'm not sure how this changes anything.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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But you need *cable* or some other service that connects you to the Internet, right?
yes, but not cable tv.

so this changes nothing.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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yes, but not cable tv.

so this changes nothing.
Which is exactly what the OP was saying. We have now come full circle.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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Which is exactly what the OP was saying. We have now come full circle.
No, I think the OP is confused. Netflix streaming has always required an internet connection. So again, nothing has changed. No full circle.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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Comcast knows full well that traditional Cable TV is on the decline. What they are doing right now is taking steps to gain more control over the "pipes" that will being internet programming into people's homes in now and in the future. So, while this in and of itself is not a drastic step, it's not entirely accurate to say that nothing has changed.

from How Comcast's Netflix Bullying Is Going to Cost Us All | Gizmodo India

"...this new pay-for-direct-connection precedent is bad for you, the consumer, on a whole bunch of levels. With this new deal, Comcast gets paid twice for delivering Netflix. First from you, the subscriber, and then from Netflix itself, for the privilege of being delivered. And what happens to that increased cost of Netflix's overhead? It could ultimately end up on your Netflix bill. We could see the same thing happening to other independent services as well, lending an unfair advantage against any data-hungry service that isn't owned and operated by your friendly neighborhood ISP.

And what about feisty little start-ups who can't afford their own private highway? They won't get throttled on the main internet road unless they really clog it up, sure. But meanwhile, established champs who can pay for a seperate tube have the advantage of not having to fight with a bunch of other traffic. It's about to get harder than ever for something like Netflix to come along again.

But the biggest takeaway is that the power to negotiate is no longer in the hands of the consumers, or even the folks with the services in high demand. Comcast didn't bother to try and fix its Netflix problem. It didn't even just sit back and let someone else fix it. It held out until Netflix had no choice but to pay for the privilege of fixing it. And since Comcast is on track to have more weight to throw around, along with an unfortunate new definition of "business as usual" on hand, it's hard to see how things stand to get much better if we all keep playing with bullies. But it's hard to stop when there's no one else around."
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:28 PM
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Yall Netflix users keep thinking nothing won't change
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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This probably isn't the right forum to have a technical discussion, but here's just one counter-point to that inaccurate gizmodo article:

The Comcast-Netflix Deal: Fact vs. Fiction
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