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Old 01-25-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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"We all want the same things."

............ - Jacquese from The Real World XIV

First, don't knock me because the quote's from MTV. What the guy meant was: We all want good health, happiness, maybe a spouse and/or kids/grandkids, food, net worth, a roof over our head, etc., etc. Well, most people want these things unless they have mental illness or other issues.

So, here we go. We all want the same things. Is this realization:

(A) a step toward our higher selves, etc.? Perhaps signifying the first step in a departure from neuroses and base tendencies?

or, on the flip side,

(B) the very thing that makes us competitive/cutthroat or, in extreme cases, wacko/certifiable?

P.S. The quote is not meant to glorify MTV or The Real World series. It is quoted because it led me to some internal questions, which I am sharing here.

Last edited by grimace8; 01-25-2011 at 04:36 PM.. Reason: I changed the title to identify the focus on PHILOSOPHY, not religion. To anyone reading this: This is not a religion thread
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:48 PM
 
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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We all want to be happy - that's about where the commonalities end.

Different people get happy different ways.
Some make art. Some kill people of different religions.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:08 PM
 
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Different people get happy different ways.
Some make art. Some kill people of different religions.
Well, sane people value the basics, generally speaking. Food and a roof for sure.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:11 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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We all have the same needs... food,clothing, shelter. Wants??? I'm not so sure about!
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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Well I've give an example. In my old job, my great boss got a better job at another company --he was not allowed to take me with him because where he was going staff already existed. So I was left behind with no boss for 3 weeks when High Up Boss (initials: JW) replaced Great Boss (GreatB) with Underqualified Boss (UBoss/UB). I was livid because I knew UB's history and he was in no way qualified to replace GreatB. I did everything I could to sabotage UB because I knew he wanted to be around JW and answer to JW. I was already answering to JW for 4 years. (JW is smart and respected and a top boss) So UB wanted the same thing as me -- to be around JW. The problem I had was: I did not think UB deserved to even be on the same floor as JW. Furthermore I did not want to be associated with UB because he had a reputation of incompetence and being a bump on a log (i.e. useless). I saw it first hand because prior to UB being in limbo, he held a position that got axed. So UB was days away from being terminated, but then GreatB announced he got a cool new job. If I could've, I would've put 2,000 miles between UB and myself. Whereas GreatB was great in every way. The best boss imaginable because he was smart, demanding, and brought out the best in his workers. I was so angry with JW picking UB -- it was hard to hide. Perhaps if I had focused more on the fact that UB simply wanted to be in the same sphere as JW (same as me) then I could've worked through my rage. If I had removed the "deserve" factor from the equation is what I mean. Anyway, my sabotage failed and I ended up at another company doing the same job. So the issue of "I/we/he/she/they deserve(s)" is a big thing in this world. It makes people nuts.

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Old 01-25-2011, 06:01 PM
 
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Well I've give an example. In my old job, my great boss got a better job at another company --he was not allowed to take me with him because where he was going staff already existed. So I was left behind with no boss for 3 weeks when High Up Boss (initials: JW) replaced Great Boss (GreatB) with Underqualified Boss (UBoss/UB). I was livid because I knew UB's history and he was in no way qualified to replace GreatB. I did everything I could to sabotage UB because I knew he wanted to be around JW and answer to JW. I was already answering to JW for 4 years. (JW is smart and respected and a top boss) So UB wanted the same thing as me -- to be around JW. The problem I had was: I did not think UB deserved to even be on the same floor as JW. Furthermore I did not want to be associated with UB because he had a reputation of incompetence and being a bump on a log (i.e. useless). I saw it first hand because prior to UB being in limbo, he held a position that got axed. So UB was days away from being terminated, but then GreatB announced he got a cool new job. If I could've, I would've put 2,000 miles between UB and myself. Whereas GreatB was great in every way. The best boss imaginable because he was smart, demanding, and brought out the best in his workers. I was so angry with JW picking UB -- it was hard to hide. Perhaps if I had focused more on the fact that UB simply wanted to be in the same sphere as JW (same as me) then I could've worked through my rage. If I had removed the "deserve" factor from the equation is what I mean. Anyway, my sabotage failed and I ended up at another company doing the same job. So the issue of "I/we/he/she/they deserve(s)" is a big thing in this world. It makes people nuts.
hopefully everything will workout; maybe you will be able to work for yourself one day soon.
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