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Old 01-28-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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Are homosexual practices illogical and harmful?

If they are, then why are people forcefully pretending that they aren't?

If they are not illogical and harmful, why not?

Please include your argument without any use of logical fallacies (ad hominem attacks, strawmen etc.).

 
Old 01-28-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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The American Psychological Association originally defined homosexuality as a disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders-II (DSM-II), then, was harassed into changing the definition. "Led by radicals like Franklin Kameny, pro-sodomy activists attacked psychiatrists across America, as Newsweek describes: “But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos..."
http://www.freewebs.com/theborngayhoax/theapa.htm

So, the definition of homosexuality was changed from being a disorder to being normalized, not because of scientific research, but as a political move by harassing homosexual fetish lobbyists.

The truth found in undeniable statistics is that actions based on homosexual fetishes make it a disorder (state of confusion) and even one that causes suffering by such confusion:

1. Homosexuality is not ever truly sex but involves fetishes, because sex involves the sexual organs of each, and homosexuality must resort to subsitutes... fetishes. (Fetish: any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. ) Anal sex is such a fetish. Some fetishes cause no harm, but unfortunatley anal sex can cause anal fissures, anal cancer, colon rupture and bacterial infections.

2. According to the United States Center for Disease Control (US CDC), those with homosexual fetishes are many times more likely to contract STDs than heterosexuals. http://www.cdc.gov/stdconference/2000/m ... ay2000.htm

3. According to the United States Center for Disease Control (US CDC), those with homosexual fetishes are many times more likely to contract AIDS than heterosexuals. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm

4. Also According to the United States Center for Disease Control (US CDC), those with homosexual fetishes are more likely to develop mental illness. Research also has found that, compared to other men, MSM are at increased risk of: Major depression during adolescence and adulthood; Bipolar disorder; and Generalized anxiety disorder during adolescence and adulthood. MSM are also at greater risk for other health threats that often occur in conjunction with mental health problems (i.e., co-morbidities). These include greater use of illegal drugs and a greater risk for suicide.

5. Most babies are born healthy, without disorders, including without homosexual fetishes. At birth, our brains are only 25% developed. This makes us less intelligent at birth than many other mamals, however it ends up in our best interest because along with more caregiving support, we are better able to adapt to environmental influences. Under various circumstances, some such adaptations result in the development of homosexual fetishes. There is no such thing as a gay gene - as mentioned in the first link above.

Evidence shows that the development of homosexual fetishes is more linked to environmental influences than to biology. Science does not support the claim that homosexuality is genetic.. Even Homosexual Researchers Debunk ‘Born Gay’ Urban Legend http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/724179/posts

"1. No research has found provable biological or genetic differences between heterosexuals & homosexuals that weren't caused by their behavior. 2. In 2 large studies conducted... Homosexuals overwhelmingly believed their feelings and behavior were the result of social or environmental influences. (Note that the focus of homosexual fetishes is limited to select countries, globally.) 3. Older homosexuals often approach the young 4. Early homosexual experiences influence adult patters of behavior 5. Sexual conduct is influenced by cultural factors - esp. religious convictions 6. Many change their sexual preferences 7. There are many ex-homosexuals"

The homosexual fetish herd is trying to push its way into the public - to make this disorder that statistically proves to be harmful, be accepted, even legally. Don't fall for it. Love people, don't love the sin. "Tolerance applies to persons, but never to truth. Intolerance applies to truth, but never to persons. Tolerance applies to the erring; intollerance to the error." -Fulton Sheen
 
Old 01-28-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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Even if you don't care what people do behind closed doors, and don't care if they legally support a harmful disorder or not...
You might care if such measures to redefine marriage based on sexual fetishes, infringed on YOUR rights, as they have on others'.

Children have the right to not be taught homosexuality in school. Yet, in places where homosexual fetish marriage has been supported, these rights have been infringed upon...
*Freshmen were told not to tell their parents about a pro-gay seminar & were required to sign a confidentiality agreement (Derrfield, Illinois Mar. 2007).
*In March, 2007, a Massachusetts high school banned parents from attending a seminar for students on how they can know they are homosexual.
*In October, 2008, First graders (6 year-old students) were taken on a field trip to watch their lesbian teacher's wedding.
*In Oct 2008, a Hayward CA public elementary school celebrated "Coming Out Day."

Normalizing & even encouraging children to explore homosexuality obviously causes more to experiment with homosexuality.
"The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in Schools... This report is part of an integrated strategy to inform and educate parents, students and school officials across the nation of its contents and of their respective rights and duties. It has documented the concern that the health of students in many schools across the country may have been compromised and their First Amendment rights may have been denied."
http://www.afamichigan.org/images/Legal ... 200504.pdf

Some in the homosexual fetish activist group have bluntly admitted that their eventual goal is to normalize pedophilia and inappropriate adult-child sexual relations.

Many have been harassed by the homosexual fetish herd, without public notice, but some have been public, like Chick Filay and a Miss America contestant, both who voiced their support for marriage between a man and a woman.
Other examples include...
*In April 2008, an Albuquerque photographer was fined over $6,000 for refusing to be hired to photograph a lesbian couple's commitment ceremony.
*In May, 2008, a black administrator was fired from the U of Toledo, Ohio, for writing an editorial objecting to the comparison of black discrimination to same-sex marriage.
*An intolerant opponent of Proposition 8 violently attacked & injured a Proposition supporter in Oct. 2008.
*On November 19, 2008, eHarmony, a Christian-based matching service was forced by New Jersey's Division on Civil Rights to provide website matching services for homosexuals.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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Not only do children need both a mother and father to EXIST, children also need both parents to learn by example and how to get along with the opposite sex...

"Children Need Both A Mother And A Father" Dr. A. Dean Byrd
narth

"Why Children need both Mother-Love and Father-Love" Glenn T. Stanton
Why Children Need Father-Love and Mother-Love - JASWiki

"Mothers' and Fathers' Socializing Behaviors in Three Contexts: Links with Children's Peer Competence"
Pettit, Gregory S.; Brown, Elizabeth Glyn; Mize, Jacquelyn; Lindsey, Eric
ERIC - Mothers' and Fathers' Socializing Behaviors in Three Contexts: Links With Children's Peer Competence., Merrill-Palmer Quarterly, 1998

"Why Children Need a Mother and a Father" Bill Muehlenberg
Why Children Need a Mother and a Father » Bill Muehlenberg’s CultureWatch


Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage
Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage | Denny Burk

Every child need a mum” – A gay man speaks out against gay marriage
A Gay Man Speaks Out Against Gay Marriage |
 
Old 01-28-2014, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSoul View Post
Are homosexual practices illogical and harmful?

If they are, then why are people forcefully pretending that they aren't?

If they are not illogical and harmful, why not?

Please include your argument without any use of logical fallacies (ad hominem attacks, strawmen etc.).

Your list is illogical for the omission of part iv). Let me finish it for you:

If they are not illogical and harmful, then why are people forcefully pretending that they are?

I'm sure you can answer that one. But considering the whole hayrick of strawmen in your posts above, don't bother.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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I'm not sure I see why they would be illogical or harmful. People are attracted to who they're attracted to. There's no "logic" to it - the preferences just ARE. And who is harmed? Two consenting adults (or two consenting minors) pursue a romantic relationship - it's no more or less harmful than any other romantic relationship.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by SuperSoul View Post
Are homosexual practices illogical and harmful?

If they are, then why are people forcefully pretending that they aren't?

If they are not illogical and harmful, why not?

Please include your argument without any use of logical fallacies (ad hominem attacks, strawmen etc.).
The overwhelming majority of the Earth doesn't recognize same sex partnership. USA is extreme.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 02:20 PM
 
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I'm not sure I see why they would be illogical or harmful. People are attracted to who they're attracted to. There's no "logic" to it - the preferences just ARE. And who is harmed? Two consenting adults (or two consenting minors) pursue a romantic relationship - it's no more or less harmful than any other romantic relationship.
Fertility rates in White nations are so low that white race & culture is steadily dying. Homosexuality would further fuel this.
 
Old 01-28-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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Fertility rates in White nations are so low that white race & culture is steadily dying. Homosexuality would further fuel this.
It hasn't in the U.S. and we have gay pride parades, and in some ways entertainment media could be said to glamorize homosexuality.

Our native population is growing so slowly because heterosexual couples want to have fewer children. Homosexuality seems like it would have a negligible influence on that.

This Gallup pole says 3.4% of Americans are homosexuals or bisexual or transgender.
How many Americans are gay or lesbian? Gallup survey says 3.4 percent.


I don't see 3.4% affecting much.

Last edited by Clintone; 01-28-2014 at 04:34 PM..
 
Old 01-28-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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It hasn't in the U.S. and we have gay pride parades, and in some ways entertainment media could be said to glamorize homosexuality.

Our native population is growing so slowly because heterosexual couples want to have fewer children. Homosexuality seems like it would have a negligible influence on that.

This Gallup pole says 3.4% of Americans are homosexuals or bisexual or transgender.
How many Americans are gay or lesbian? Gallup survey says 3.4 percent.


I don't see 3.4% affecting much.
USA isn't a white nation
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