05-10-2013, 10:01 PM
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Women like tubs. Did you not know that?
The women I know (younger demographic) think taking a bath is gross. I have to concur. If we want a soak, we have a spa for that.
05-10-2013, 10:12 PM
Location: the AZ desert
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The first thing we did when we purchased our current place is rip out the master tub and create a huge, walk-in, two-person shower. It has built-in benches and niches, multiple adjustable spray bars, massagers on slide bars which are adjustable or could be hand-held, and is surrounded by a curved glass block wall. We also added a couple of matching grab-bars, so we don't have to worry about it meeting any potential needs in the future. We added a heat lamp outside the shower on a timer too, which is nice when the a/c is blowing cold and you just get out. This renovation was the best thing we ever did. Every one of our friends/family oooh'd and ahhh'd over it when they got an initial grand tour of the house.
We actually "waste" more water than if we had a tub or standard shower, because we both take showers that are longer now.
The only thing we could have done differently to make it more spa-like would have been to heat the bathroom floor, but we felt it was overkill since we were adding the heat lamp. I also had concerns that should the heated floor need repair, the tiles would have to be ripped up first.
We do have a tub in another bathroom. If we didn't we would have kept the master tub, because we need one to bathe the dog in.
05-10-2013, 10:22 PM
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The first thing we did when we purchased our current place is rip out the master tub and create a huge, walk-in, two-person shower. It has built-in benches and niches, multiple adjustable spray bars, massagers on slide bars which are adjustable or could be hand-held, and is surrounded by a curved glass block wall. We also added a couple of matching grab-bars, so we don't have to worry about it meeting any potential needs in the future. We added a heat lamp outside the shower on a timer too, which is nice when the a/c is blowing cold and you just get out. This renovation was the best thing we ever did. Every one of our friends/family oooh'd and ahhh'd over it when they got an initial grand tour of the house.
We actually "waste" more water than if we had a tub or standard shower, because we both take showers that are longer now.
The only thing we could have done differently to make it more spa-like would have been to heat the bathroom floor, but we felt it was overkill since we were adding the heat lamp. I also had concerns that should the heated floor need repair, the tiles would have to be ripped up first.
We do have a tub in another bathroom. If we didn't we would have kept the master tub, because we need one to bathe the dog in.
Wow, that sounds amazing!
05-10-2013, 10:34 PM
Location: the AZ desert
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Wow, that sounds amazing!
I forgot to mention we made sure the shower entrance was wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair, (in case someone accidentally breaks a leg or something), and it has a no-lip entrance to enable a roll-in. (It's large enough that splash-out isn't an issue.) We figured that would be great in our old age too, or for potential resale.
We were inspired by the commercial where the repair man (plumber?) takes a shower in his customer's master bath, then comes out wet and almost fully dressed and tells the couple everything works now. We figured if we were going to do something potentially negative to the house (remove a tub), we wanted to replace it with something awesome (the shower).
05-11-2013, 10:14 AM
Location: Chandler
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Actually, more and more of the builders are offering this as an option. Huge walk in shower in lieu of the small shower/tub combo. And you will be shocked at how many people are paying for this option! I think there are less and less "soakers" out there and people are sick of the tiny showers. Plus, most homes still have a tub in the secondary bath, so you are covered for resale.
We are also getting bids to do the same thing. Only I am going to turn my current shower into a big linen cabinet and the tub area into a walk in shower. And nothing with glass! I am so sick of having to use the squeegee after a shower!
05-11-2013, 10:16 AM
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I wonder if the majority of the 'gotta have the tub' posters are actually from Phoenix. As in, been here a really long time. They're a waste of water.
A steam shower? Those were popular in....1992.
05-11-2013, 10:35 AM
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A steam shower? Those were popular in....1992.
They never really lost their appeal. You must have not been to a gym lately. The steam rooms get quite a bit of use. I have several friends that have very nice homes that have steam showers. I can see them having even more appeal here in the dry desert.
05-11-2013, 12:22 PM
Location: In the Deem Hills of NW Phoenix
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Many of my buyers say having no tub in the master is a deal-breaker. As mentioned before in this thread, many elderly buyers will prefer a walk-in shower. Most new homes have both. For the majority of buyers, the ideal master bath has a large walk-in shower, a soaking tub, a large walk-in closet, and a long vanity with double sinks. Of course, different strokes for different folks...
05-11-2013, 12:40 PM
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Many of my buyers say having no tub in the master is a deal-breaker. As mentioned before in this thread, many elderly buyers will prefer a walk-in shower. Most new homes have both. For the majority of buyers, the ideal master bath has a large walk-in shower, a soaking tub, a large walk-in closet, and a long vanity with double sinks. Of course, different strokes for different folks...
That's what I'm afraid of. Thanks for the insight.
05-11-2013, 12:48 PM
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We are seniors and maybe once a month DW uses the tub BUT she uses the one in the guest bathroom because the "garden whirlpool" tub in the master bathroom is too difficult to get in and out of. So if you do decide to put in a tub, keep in mind the difficulty of someone older (or only 5' tall) trying to get in and out.
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Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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