12-30-2013, 12:24 PM
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My wife and I are retired at age 57. Well let's say I am for the most part as I was forced to retire due disability in the line of duty as a police officer. I would like to find some sort of part time work to keep me busy but have my physical limitations.
My wife, she is a licensed x-ray tech by trade and wants to work part time at a local hospital.
We live in Seattle and even though we would miss the adult children and grandchildren, we can still visit when the rain stops (basically 4 months out of the year). My wife has asthma and I had back surgery and much pain due to the weather.
So are we too young to live at a place like Pebble Creek 55 plus community? We are exercise and enjoy the gym, bicycle ride, walk, etc but do not golf due to my doctors orders.
To be honest, I also think of the inevitable of my not being here one day (my wife contests that) and I want her to have a social and support network for when I am gone. Maybe too premature but I think of it.
Any advise is welcomed and appreciate your time.
12-30-2013, 12:27 PM
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I would say no - I know quite a few people who live there and are still working - it's also a very active community
Their rec center is very nice and they have a lot of good programs
Like many retirement communities out here golf is a big part of existence - but far from the only part
There may be things specific to Pebble Creek that you may or may not like .... as well with the overall 55+ concept that need to be considered ..... I wouldn't rule out Pebble Creek though just because of your age being on the lower end
12-30-2013, 01:11 PM
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Thanks for the reply. the 55 plus community thing has bad memories for me as my parents retired to Century Village in Boca Raton Florida in 1980. I would visit them, had to go through the security gate and then was forced by my parents to go to the "6 million dollar" clubhouse to get my "pass." I walked through the entrance and several shuffling older guards surrounded me to inquiry about my assault upon their facility.
Then when I would sit around the pool, I heard older men arguing with each other of "what pain is." "You want to know what pain is?" "Ever have a kidney stone??!!"
Or else if an ambulance came in to the village people would stand out on the terrace walkways and argue with each other who died! "It's Goldberg in 302!" "NO, Saul Levington in 108!" I kid you not.
My mother would constantly remind me of the rules and regulations. "Watch your speed!, They get very angry here and you don't have to live with them, I do!!"
(<: All true so we have our concerns indeed but maybe, just maybe things have changed or else maybe not. Maybe I will be one of those people!!! no.....please no...
12-30-2013, 01:39 PM
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You might also consider just the non age restricted parts of a master planned community. I live in Estrella, up the road a bit from Pebble Creek and it is very popular with all ages with a large cohort of 50-60 somethings. You have all the amenities that you get in an age-restricted place like age appropriate planned activities, a residents center, community medical facilities, pools, gyms, hiking, biking, sailing etc, without feeling that you are in St. Peter's waiting room.
12-30-2013, 01:56 PM
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My in-laws are 73 and say that most of the people they see at Pebble Creek are significantly younger and in great shape for their age. They say they were expecting a much older crowd then they have found there. They rent a place there and stay for a month or so each year.
I visit my wife's 93 year old uncle in Fountain of the Sun in Mesa and holy cow those people over there are OLD. It is almost depressing in that place because everyone you see is so old. Pebble Creek is an Active Adult community and I don't notice "old people" there like I do at Fountain of the Sun in Mesa.
12-30-2013, 02:31 PM
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My mother would constantly remind me of the rules and regulations. "Watch your speed!, They get very angry here and you don't have to live with them, I do!!"
(<: All true so we have our concerns indeed but maybe, just maybe things have changed or else maybe not. Maybe I will be one of those people!!! no.....please no...
Heh ... we had a conference there one year and one of our out of state employees was cited for speeding by the community people
I would definitely visit and consider it .... but as Ponderosa mentioned you don't have to be in an age restricted place if you want the feel of a master planned community
12-30-2013, 03:46 PM
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Thanks for the reply. the 55 plus community thing has bad memories for me as my parents retired to Century Village in Boca Raton Florida in 1980. I would visit them, had to go through the security gate and then was forced by my parents to go to the "6 million dollar" clubhouse to get my "pass." I walked through the entrance and several shuffling older guards surrounded me to inquiry about my assault upon their facility.
Then when I would sit around the pool, I heard older men arguing with each other of "what pain is." "You want to know what pain is?" "Ever have a kidney stone??!!"
Or else if an ambulance came in to the village people would stand out on the terrace walkways and argue with each other who died! "It's Goldberg in 302!" "NO, Saul Levington in 108!" I kid you not.
My mother would constantly remind me of the rules and regulations. "Watch your speed!, They get very angry here and you don't have to live with them, I do!!"
(<: All true so we have our concerns indeed but maybe, just maybe things have changed or else maybe not. Maybe I will be one of those people!!! no.....please no...
While some of what this post says are true, I had exactly the opposite experience. My parents moved to a planned community that had both adult and family sections, they did not want to be with "old people" so they moved into the family section. Of course after a few years they were old and no longer wanted to be around the families that had children on skate boards or teenagers that came home at midnight with the stereo blasting in their car (or the parties when the parents were gone). Yes 55 is on the younger side, but I would rather have a neighbor that goes to bed a 9pm than one that goes out at 9pm.
Active Adult Communities like Pebble Creek, Trilogy, Encanterra tend to be younger and more active than some of the "retirement" communities. I certainly think they are worth checking out considering your initial post and your situation.
12-30-2013, 11:30 PM
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We also have to contact Pebble Creek to see if all the "classes" the offer cost additional monies. I assume out HOA fees also goes to a golf course we will not use (maybe the putting greens). Again, we are looking toward the future as we want to make only one move but then again don't want to feel that we are with a bunch of oldies. Maybe we are in denial about our age but then again so many older people call us "Youngsters." Just maybe if we moved there the community as a whole ages and we will always be the "Youngster's" there even when we are 70. Kind of scary.
We were thinking of Pebble Creek due to its location as my wife and I would like to get some kind of part time work especialy the wife who can work at a hospital. Don't want to be far out and have to commute very far.
12-31-2013, 08:27 AM
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Also consider that active adult communities tend to be priced higher than comparable non-active adult subdivisions. If you like Pebble Creek, then you may want to consider the adjacent Palm Valley (we live there). It's well located and offers a wide range of home prices and styles and there is a hospital around the corner.
We also own a home in Verrado (
www.verrado.com ), down I-10 about 5 min, where they are just starting an active adult community, Victory. If it's anything like the rest of the town, then it will be an fantastic place to live well. The developer, DMB (
www.dmbinc.com ), builds exceptional communities that feel and look better than typical master plans.
Someone mentioned Estrella Mountain Ranch. Also nice with a "big sky" feel, but it's remote and may not work for your wife who would be going "down the hill" to get to work.
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12-31-2013, 08:39 AM
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We also have to contact Pebble Creek to see if all the "classes" the offer cost additional monies. I assume out HOA fees also goes to a golf course we will not use (maybe the putting greens). Again, we are looking toward the future as we want to make only one move but then again don't want to feel that we are with a bunch of oldies. Maybe we are in denial about our age but then again so many older people call us "Youngsters." Just maybe if we moved there the community as a whole ages and we will always be the "Youngster's" there even when we are 70. Kind of scary.
We were thinking of Pebble Creek due to its location as my wife and I would like to get some kind of part time work especialy the wife who can work at a hospital. Don't want to be far out and have to commute very far.
I doubt HOA fees cover the golf. Usually there is a fat fee for a golf membership or a discount on greens fees for the occasional player. HOA covers stuff like the fancy resident center and the pools and the salary of the management staff, the common area landscape, etc. Where I live, most of the activities like the exercise clubs, the adult sports teams, dance, and on and on are free or the cost is really minimal - five dollars or less. If you are going to use those things, then great, it is a bargain. But otherwise, you are better off living somewhere that has lower fees (there are few newer places in the metro where you can avoid and HOA).
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)