01-14-2014, 07:21 PM
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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OK regarding the major league teams in Phoenix (Suns/Coyotes/Cardinals/Diamondbacks), several questions....
How's the passion with the fanbase?
Is there a hometown element and do transplants adopt any loyalty?
What do you think of the stadiums, arenas, and venues?
How well are the teams performing?
Which franchise in Phoenix do you think has the biggest following?
Any particular rivalries with other cities?
All these are curious and pondering thoughts of mine. I think my favorite Arizona sports moment was seeing the D-Backs beat the Yankees in the World Series in 2001, though I'm a Red Sox fan so I appreciate any team that beats the Yankees.
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People in Phoenix are not very attached to their teams. I've lived in Phoenix on and off for the past 16 years and when I first moved here everyone was in the throes of baseball passion. Nobody and I mean nobody talked about football. Had one friend that would go to Cardinal games and people would look at him like he was crazy.
01-15-2014, 06:09 AM
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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There's a core passionate fan base for all the teams, it's just not large enough. The Cardinals have the largest, most consistent one, over the last few years. For the rest, there are a lot of bandwagon fans, and those who will come to games wearing the jerseys of their hometown teams. Some transplants adopt the local teams, some don't.
01-15-2014, 08:52 AM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The Suns have a base though ownership has been frustrating it for years. The rest: we love em when they win, ignore them when they don't.
01-15-2014, 09:00 AM
Location: Surprise, Az
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Phoenix sport fans are a front running bunch. The support is there when the teams are winning.
01-15-2014, 09:55 AM
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caphillsea77
OK regarding the major league teams in Phoenix (Suns/Coyotes/Cardinals/Diamondbacks), several questions....
How's the passion with the fanbase?
Is there a hometown element and do transplants adopt any loyalty?
What do you think of the stadiums, arenas, and venues?
How well are the teams performing?
Which franchise in Phoenix do you think has the biggest following?
Any particular rivalries with other cities?
All these are curious and pondering thoughts of mine. I think my favorite Arizona sports moment was seeing the D-Backs beat the Yankees in the World Series in 2001, though I'm a Red Sox fan so I appreciate any team that beats the Yankees.
How's the passion with the fanbase? - A lot less than other cities. There is a small core group of really passionate fans and then more of the tourist fan base that will fill up the venue dependent on the teams chances. This is improving over time, but I hope it never reaches the unhealthy level of some other places.
Is there a hometown element and do transplants adopt any loyalty? - There is a hometown element, but again it can depend. The Suns are the most entrenched as they have a long standing presence and some of the generational fan base. The Cardinals are starting to build this given the popularity of football, their new stadium and some recent success. Transplants can go either way. Personally I think geography is a convenient reason to have a favorite team, but maybe not the best. I've followed the same teams since I was a really young kid and have lived in different cities. Typically I'll continue to follow my teams and then hope the best for the locals as it does add some buzz and excitement.
What do you think of the stadiums, arenas, and venues? - Top notch all around. Even with some minor flaws in really all of them except the hockey arena, they are all really good and well appointed. We also have a bunch of fantastic spring training facilities out here as well.
How well are the teams performing? - most have been stuck into that dead zone between rebuilding and being a real competitor - the cardinals had a great year but were saddled by really poor expectations even through the season, it's like the 10 wins snuck up on people and the season was over before the casual fans realized they were good ......... the suns were supposed to be horrible this year as part of a rebuild but they have been entertaining and fairly competative ...... the d'back disapointed last year ....... the coyotes had their 3 year playoff streak snapped last year and are currently struggled trying to stay in competition for the last playoff spot
Which franchise in Phoenix do you think has the biggest following? - I would say the Suns most consistently - although when football is going it's definitely the king sport ........ I would also say this is a great city if you like baseball, it's almost non-stop out here
Any particular rivalries with other cities? - Suns have Lakers/Spurs, D'backs have Dodgers - the others aren't as entrenched ... I would say the Cards & Niners although the Cards haven't really ever gotten over on them - there is the typical venom towards Dallas & Pittsburgh ....... The Coyotes have their divisional opponents with the Kings probably being the most hated along with an occasional flareup against the Blackhawks from some playoff bad blood
01-15-2014, 11:09 AM
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Suns games seem to be more about socializing than watching the actual game
01-15-2014, 11:31 AM
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Giants fan through and through. But when we move to Phoenix, I will be adopting some local love, however. I will root for and try to watch the Diamondbacks. Unless of course the Giants come into town
. I'm just wondering if I'll be able to find one of those hats like I've seen some SF/LA fans wearing, where half of the hat is a Giants hat and the other half is a Dodgers hat, or if I'll have to get it made. Except it'd be SF/PHX.
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I think my favorite Arizona sports moment was seeing the D-Backs beat the Yankees in the World Series in 2001, though I'm a Red Sox fan so I appreciate any team that beats the Yankees.
I remember that and still mention it! I was in college in L.A. at the time, and I was rooting for the Diamondbacks because I hate the Yankees with a deep, heated, flaming passion. I wanted to strangle the AZ closer when he blew games 4 and 5 right at the end and made the series go 3-2 NY. That was an edge of my seat series, but fortunately, each team won all of their home games, so luckily AZ had the homefield advantage. The best moment was having Randy Johnson come in to close out game 7, which Shilling had started, after Johnson having had pitched the night before.
01-15-2014, 12:28 PM
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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The best moment was having Randy Johnson come in to close out game 7, which Shilling had started, after Johnson having had pitched the night before.
You are so right. Watching him walk in from the bullpen was a goosebump moment never to forget.
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01-15-2014, 02:04 PM
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Phoenix sports fans get a bad wrap but I think the teams have decent fanbases given the circumstances. Newer teams and a transplant population will make it hard for any team to grow strong roots. The Coyotes are the only local team I consider myself a fan of but they are still my number two team.
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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. I'm just wondering if I'll be able to find one of those hats like I've seen some SF/LA fans wearing, where half of the hat is a Giants hat and the other half is a Dodgers hat, or if I'll have to get it made. Except it'd be SF/PHX. 
