Is this a normal PHX routine?

[kytoaz]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

If I "just ignore it" as you stated, it would be inattentive on my part, and a serious collision could occur. Drivers who turn onto a busy street in front of other vehicles obviously have no consideration for anybody in their way, and a limited attention span. These are valid reasons for revocation of a DL. If somebody turns in front of me & moves slow, I'm forced to either slam on my brakes or swerve around them to avoid a collision. You've heard the saying "what goes around comes around?" That's exactly what I do if I have the opportunity.



Somehow I knew this thread would evolve into the usual "people drive too fast here" complaint. I don't advocate reckless driving or excessive speeding at all ... however, there are reasons why Phoenicians tend to drive fast: the layout of our streets/freeways, and the weather/climate. Wide roads and clear weather offer greater visibility, which makes it safer to go faster (taking into consideration the traffic & road conditions). The slower, inattentive driver is most often the hazard.

There is a huge difference between driving fast and driving wreckless. I drive fast, but I don't endanger other peoples lives by taking stupid chances.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by mborner

It appears that this guy on the motorcycle is traveling at an unsafe speed based on road conditions and location. (speeding). I'm not saying that makes it okay for the car to turn in front of him, just that if you're blazing down the street at an unsafe speed, you can't put 100% of the blame on the guy in the car.

The motorcycle might have been going fast, but at least the driver was attentive. That's more than we can say for the inattentive idiot who turned in front of him at a very slow pace, risking a serious collision.

Originally Posted by kytoaz

There is a huge difference between driving fast and driving wreckless. I drive fast, but I don't endanger other peoples lives by taking stupid chances.

Absolutely. That's why turning directly in front of oncoming traffic is extremely risky & stupid, and it's also a form of reckless driving. Recklessness doesn't always mean excessive speeding.

[goolsbyjazz]

Pretty common practice out here.

[singlegirlinaz]

It sure does happen a lot, I was turning left into a parking lot yesterday and a SUV pulled out and almost hit my car. Lucky I saw him and stopped in time. I could have cussed him out and blasted the horn but what good would that do?

There ought to be a sticky in this forum reserved for Phoenix traffic. If not, maybe a website to post traffic incidents, description of the vehicle and license plate number. Even better if the police had a site like that.