08-18-2009, 06:11 AM
Location: Phoenix
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MN-Born-n-Raised
I was told by someone in Scottsdale that if the power is off, that means that the house can get extremely hot inside. They said over 140 degrees. Plumbing seals can get damaged with hot dry air over time and grout can "pop". That's just want I heard. I'm not from Phoenix but I heard it from a Scottsdale agent.
Green pool?? No problem. My MN pool is green right now because we were on vacation for a week and the pump got turned off. $150 of chemicals and 1 week and it will be clear again.
If I was you, I'd be shopping for a back-up plan and NOT waiting. You are in a different price point. 85% of all sales are below $250K in the Valley. Generally speaking that means the lower prices stuff is going up (1st time buyers) and the more spendy stuff has more to go. Since you are looking at property above $300K, it's still a buyers market. Potentially I would be choosing another agent but i don't know your specific relationship.
I really doubt houses can get to 140 degrees, many people live in Arizona without any A/C and do just fine.
Out A/C was off for 24 hours this summer, our apartment never got hotter than 95.
08-18-2009, 07:05 AM
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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The house wasn't that hot yesterday. I was on my bike, wearing full gear, and it was 106 deg. outside. House felt about the same inside. But that pool is beyong just chemicals. It needs to be drained and acid washed. No question about it.
08-18-2009, 07:47 AM
Location: Gilbert - Val Vista Lakes
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Green pool
Rick, the main problem with a green pool is mosquitos breeding in still waters.
Contact Maricopa County Vector Control
Home :: Vector Control
and report the pool. Tell them there are mosquitoes breeding there. They will send out a person to put Gambusia (mosquito eating fish) in the pool to prevent the mosquito infestation. Or you can take a bucket and go pick them up for free and put them in yourself.
The listing agent has nothing to do with maintaining the property. It is not his property and he has no authority to maintain it.
The bank does not own the property so they have no authority to maintain it.
The owner has abandoned it and things will deteriorate.
If you get the house, then you have the contractual opportunity to have inspections. You cannot inspect a pool that is green because you can't see if there is damage. Therefore, you request that the bank get the pool cleaned and operating so that you can have it inspected by a pool company.
The bank may put the utilities in their name for inspections, and they may not. They don't have to. You may have to turn them on in your name. It depends on the bank.
However, they have to turn on water and electricity to clean the pool.
I would not use a normal home inspector to inspect the pool. I would get a pool company to inspect it.
As for the weeds growing, and other deteriorating things around the house, well that's part of the territory when working with short sales and bank owned properties.
08-18-2009, 09:05 AM
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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Thanks Bill. Wouldn't the seller and listing agent be extra motivated to make things right here so it closes as a short sale and not as a foreclosure? I mean, they both have plenty to lose if the latter happens. I'm very reluctuant to start dumping money into inspections on a place I know has issues before the inspectors even get there. That pool is gone! It has to be drained. I'd rather swim in the ocean than that biohazzard of a pool. I would think the seller would much rather have a short sale on his credit report than a foreclosure. He seemed like a normal, reasonable guy, not an apathetic deadbeat. And he did leave the inside super clean, which makes me wonder if he's truly abandoned it. He left a very nice LG washer and dryer in there. Surely, he's coming back for them.
08-18-2009, 09:11 AM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Rick Lee
Thanks Bill. Wouldn't the seller and listing agent be extra motivated to make things right here so it closes as a short sale and not as a foreclosure? I mean, they both have plenty to lose if the latter happens. I'm very reluctuant to start dumping money into inspections on a place I know has issues before the inspectors even get there. That pool is gone! It has to be drained. I'd rather swim in the ocean than that biohazzard of a pool. I would think the seller would much rather have a short sale on his credit report than a foreclosure. He seemed like a normal, reasonable guy, not an apathetic deadbeat. And he did leave the inside super clean, which makes me wonder if he's truly abandoned it. He left a very nice LG washer and dryer in there. Surely, he's coming back for them.
It's late payments that kill the credit report. If seller has missed several his credit is toast either way. And the bank doesn't care. All they are doing in most cases is servicing the loan. They collect fees for foreclosures and make money off of them. It's the investors that take the hit.
08-18-2009, 05:12 PM
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Since its less than 30 days from auction date I would say seller doesn't care if he/she sell the house. Their credit is already marked for next seven years so it doesn't matter to them. Most likely they will not put a single penny into this house. Listing agent should be motivated to get this deal done because he/she put in money/time into selling this property.
If you are getting a loan to finance this property the green pool will most likely not pass appraisal/loan funding requirement and will need to be addressed before closing.
Bank will not turn on utilities on this property because they do not have rights to that home yet.
08-18-2009, 05:38 PM
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MN-Born-n-Raised
Green pool?? No problem. My MN pool is green right now because we were on vacation for a week and the pump got turned off. $150 of chemicals and 1 week and it will be clear again.
Not necessarily. If that power stays off it could be IMPOSSIBLE to get that pool blue again. I should know, as I just drained my entire pool this past January. The guy who does my pools used to maintain the pools for Shasta and even HE couldn't get it blue again. And other times it's turned green it has cost way more than $150 and more than a week.
08-18-2009, 05:54 PM
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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has anyone noticed that the short sale market has really dried up?
08-18-2009, 07:13 PM
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Boompa
has anyone noticed that the short sale market has really dried up?
I know of one coming on the market Oct. 1, but then again I don't follow these things.
No, I stay in my humble abode where I'll be stuck for many, many more years. Sigh.
08-19-2009, 06:02 AM
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movin'on
Not necessarily. If that power stays off it could be IMPOSSIBLE to get that pool blue again. I should know, as I just drained my entire pool this past January. The guy who does my pools used to maintain the pools for Shasta and even HE couldn't get it blue again. And other times it's turned green it has cost way more than $150 and more than a week.
I did a little reading because I am in the market for a home in AZ with a pool. AZ pools are different because your pools have plaster sides. Plaster is a sponge in comparison to vinyl. So that might require an acid wash / scrubbing . You can only acid wash a maximum of 3 times which means to me that acid wash is hard on a pool.
In MN, we have vinyl liners because of the freeze / thaw cycle. In fact, when we winterize, we only drain 25% of the water (below the skimmers) and we cannot drain the entire pool as it would ruin it from the ground freeze movements. The rain and melted snow fills it back up in the spring.
If our liner stains, we simply put in a bottle of stain remover (after brushing the edges) and it's gone. If it's green for only a week, we shock filter and backwash often. That's about $30 in shock packets at Costco and a pain in the butt to clean the filters if you have DE technology. If you go to the pool store, they will send you away with all kinds of bottles that you won't need. Like 'Alkalinity Increase (a.k.a. Baking soda); Algistat (a.k.a. Borax); Liquid Shock (a.k.a. unsented bleach) and the list goes on. It's how that chemical bill gets out of hand when it should cost 1/3 of what the pool stores charge.
Nearly 100% of MN pools are brown / green in the spring when we open our pools and it takes about a week to clear it to perfection. Many times the pool can stink and might have a lot of organic material from leaves getting into the pool. They "winterized" with algaecide but that only slows down the inevitable.
The reality is chlorine and filtration will take out about anything. If you have a lot of organic materials (phosphates dissipate from leaves etc) your pool can still show a color. So movin'on, I predict you had a lot of organic material in your pool which tints the pool slightly brown. He was right, it is easist to rotate the water.
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People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)