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Old 03-16-2010, 09:58 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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I saw some screaming good deals in Sun City. Less than 60K for a house built in 1961 on a large lot, close to golf. Taxes 567 per year? I think some people will jump on that.
I'm really sick of cheap real estate, and the hopes that will bring in the growth. Cheaper housing has a way of attracting the cheaper people, and the Phoenix metro area has been too dependent on "discount housing" for too long. It might have been fine & dandy many years ago when it was a smaller area ... but the nation's fifth largest city needs to grow up and quit relying on what worked in the past.

As others have stated, the jobs need to come first ... and not just service jobs. We need to be finding ways to attract larger multinational firms that pay competitive wages. Get the higher paying jobs in here first, then the better calliber of people will be attracted to the area. Then, real estate won't be so dirt cheap anymore. As a homeowner, I'm fed up with my property values declining over the past year or two.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:39 PM
 
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I wonder what standards Today used to make that assertion.

The real estate market here is absolutely terrible. It will take a LONG, LONG time for full recovery.
It's terrible if you bought during the crazy speculation. Now it is great if you're a first time buyer. I bought last September for a lot less than my neighbors paid. Those poor people will never see the prices they paid any time soon.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:42 PM
 
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As others have stated, the jobs need to come first ... and not just service jobs. We need to be finding ways to attract larger multinational firms that pay competitive wages. Get the higher paying jobs in here first, then the better calliber of people will be attracted to the area. Then, real estate won't be so dirt cheap anymore. As a homeowner, I'm fed up with my property values declining over the past year or two.
Until this narrow minded Arizona legislature starts valuing education good luck with us ever being a center for business and innovation. Too many retirees and Tea Baggers who don't care about providing an education for our children.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:33 AM
 
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Cheaper housing has a way of attracting the cheaper people, and the Phoenix metro area has been too dependent on "discount housing" for too long.

Get the higher paying jobs in here first, then the better calliber of people will be attracted to the area.

Gee, I didn't know I was in the category of "cheaper people" and I certainly didn't realize the I was considered "lower caliber people"....
I lost my wife a few years ago in a car accident and from a financial standpoint, it wiped me out.
I've raised my daughter on my own, is a junior and she has a 4.0 gph, I have worked very hard at lower paying jobs to pay off my home which I am currently trying to sell here in Oregon. I'll pay off all my debts and plan on buying one of those cheaper homes you refer to.
I learn something every day. Today I learned that I was looked down upon by you upper class folks simply because of my financial status. I always thought that I was a pretty good guy. I don't steal, I am not abusive, I pay my bills and I always treated people, ALL PEOPLE, with the respect I always thought they deserved.
Personally, I tend to trust people until they prove they aren't trustworthy.
So to end this rant, I guess I'll have to re-evaluate my "status" in this world based upon my net worth.

It's this same logic that makes people buy fancy cars, boats, quads, expensive homes. Spending way more than they could afford and it's because they want to look like they are wealthier than they really are. To impress others for no other reason than to look richer than they really are.
It's sad.

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Old 03-17-2010, 06:31 AM
 
Location: USA
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maverick974,

I was going to defend them and say they mean this. But I honestly have no idea what view point they are trying to prove. I only know that making every metro area expensive like the rest of them out there in the world isn't fair to the general populous. Not sure I enjoy reserving the best for only the "rich."
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:43 AM
 
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Gee, I didn't know I was in the category of "cheaper people" and I certainly didn't realize the I was considered "lower caliber people"....
I lost my wife a few years ago in a car accident and from a financial standpoint, it wiped me out.
I've raised my daughter on my own, is a junior and she has a 4.0 gph, I have worked very hard at lower paying jobs to pay off my home which I am currently trying to sell here in Oregon. I'll pay off all my debts and plan on buying one of those cheaper homes you refer to.
I learn something every day. Today I learned that I was looked down upon by you upper class folks simply because of my financial status. I always thought that I was a pretty good guy. I don't steal, I am not abusive, I pay my bills and I always treated people, ALL PEOPLE, with the respect I always thought they deserved.
Personally, I tend to trust people until they prove they aren't trustworthy.
So to end this rant, I guess I'll have to re-evaluate my "status" in this world based upon my net worth.

It's this same logic that makes people buy fancy cars, boats, quads, expensive homes. Spending way more than they could afford and it's because they want to look like they are wealthier than they really are. To impress others for no other reason than to look richer than they really are.
It's sad.
AMEN Maverick 974......Didnt know i was a second class citizen either.....The world is in this mess because of people overspending, knowing they cant afford things....just to try to keep up with the Smiths and Jones.....LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS........Can't preach it enough....
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Old 03-17-2010, 07:12 AM
 
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Gee, I didn't know I was in the category of "cheaper people" and I certainly didn't realize the I was considered "lower caliber people"....
I lost my wife a few years ago in a car accident and from a financial standpoint, it wiped me out.
I've raised my daughter on my own, is a junior and she has a 4.0 gph, I have worked very hard at lower paying jobs to pay off my home which I am currently trying to sell here in Oregon. I'll pay off all my debts and plan on buying one of those cheaper homes you refer to.
I learn something every day. Today I learned that I was looked down upon by you upper class folks simply because of my financial status. I always thought that I was a pretty good guy. I don't steal, I am not abusive, I pay my bills and I always treated people, ALL PEOPLE, with the respect I always thought they deserved.
Personally, I tend to trust people until they prove they aren't trustworthy.
So to end this rant, I guess I'll have to re-evaluate my "status" in this world based upon my net worth.

It's this same logic that makes people buy fancy cars, boats, quads, expensive homes. Spending way more than they could afford and it's because they want to look like they are wealthier than they really are. To impress others for no other reason than to look richer than they really are.
It's sad.
On my income I must be classified as a "third class" citizen.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Avondale and Tempe, Arizona
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Until this narrow minded Arizona legislature starts valuing education good luck with us ever being a center for business and innovation. Too many retirees and Tea Baggers who don't care about providing an education for our children.
Every word of this is true, I couldn't have written it better myself.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:44 AM
 
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and what are they supposed to pay for it with? Three Dollar Bills with a picture of Nappy on them?
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Avondale and Tempe, Arizona
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maverick974,

I was going to defend them and say they mean this. But I honestly have no idea what view point they are trying to prove. I only know that making every metro area expensive like the rest of them out there in the world isn't fair to the general populous. Not sure I enjoy reserving the best for only the "rich."
I agree with you, it doesn't benefit the average person to have all homes, apartments, and condominiums in the metropolitan area priced like Scottsdale or Paradise Valley.

But too much emphasis on new home construction and developers placed the valley in an unforutunate situation. An overload of people still move here to retire, get a suntan, shop in upscale stores, and grab low-cost foreclosed homes.

Those things do not make a metropolitan area the envy of the nation. More emphasis needs to be placed on education, public service, and better jobs.
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