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Old 05-08-2012, 08:41 AM
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Allegheny County could face another property tax increase, councilman warns - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Seems the reassessment windfall will obviously be some joke, because they continually raise millage rates over and over again. This is what I have been trying to convey to people, but some feel this "windfall" was some protection. As I told everyone it ISN'T. If you reassess you are going to have that new multiplier home value which most all the time will be much higher and that is going against the new higher millage rate. It is a crushing blow to those of us that like to try and budget our money. Seems most just go deeper in debt or whatever, but to some of us, that money matters.

Guess we all need to budget more money for our nice tax load here in Allegheny County. Those that moved to Cranberry were the smart ones. I guess they really saw this stuff coming. It really is shocking with the new construction and Marcellus Shale that we still can't even come close to not living on credit in our region. More and more debt and more and more taxes. Sure would be nice to have some fiscal conservatives in office for a change.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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Yes, everyone that moved to Cranberry is super smart.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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Yes, everyone that moved to Cranberry is super smart.
Or just behind the power curve:

Cranberry Officials Approve Tentative Budget with Tax Increase - Cranberry, PA Patch

Seneca Valley School Board Splits 5-4 on Final Budget Approval - Cranberry, PA Patch
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Wilkinsburg
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Allegheny County could face another property tax increase, councilman warns - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Seems the reassessment windfall will obviously be some joke, because they continually raise millage rates over and over again. This is what I have been trying to convey to people, but some feel this "windfall" was some protection. As I told everyone it ISN'T. If you reassess you are going to have that new multiplier home value which most all the time will be much higher and that is going against the new higher millage rate. It is a crushing blow to those of us that like to try and budget our money. Seems most just go deeper in debt or whatever, but to some of us, that money matters.

Guess we all need to budget more money for our nice tax load here in Allegheny County. Those that moved to Cranberry were the smart ones. I guess they really saw this stuff coming. It really is shocking with the new construction and Marcellus Shale that we still can't even come close to not living on credit in our region. More and more debt and more and more taxes. Sure would be nice to have some fiscal conservatives in office for a change.
This is all completely wrong. For thousandth time, the reassessment does not prohibit future tax hikes, but it also does not amplify their effect.

A post-reassessment tax hike will have the same effect, in aggregate, as a pre-reassessment tax hike. That can be proved mathematically, and in fact many posters - myself included - have shown you that proof before.

The "windfall thing" that you're referring to is a state law. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make that any less true.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Kittanning
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Guess we all need to budget more money for our nice tax load here in Allegheny County. Those that moved to Cranberry were the smart ones.
Or yinz can just move dahn to Stowe or Turtle Crick and buy a cheap house.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Although I agree the OP is not worth engaging, this is otherwise a topic worth discussing.

Here is a helpful report from the County Controller:

http://www.alleghenycounty.us/upload...R_Internet.pdf

Here is the basic explanation of why the County is raising its millage rate, and may have to do so again:

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In 2011, the County saw a decrease in funding from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania of $7.5 million due to the elimination of its public safety grant, coupled with a more than $4 million decrease from the federal government. In February 2012, Governor Corbett announced his budget proposal, which imposes further burdens on urban-centered municipalities such as Allegheny County. Among the cuts are a 20% decrease in state funding for county-level human services programs and a 3.8% cut in community college funding.
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:01 AM
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This is all completely wrong. For thousandth time, the reassessment does not prohibit future tax hikes, but it also does not amplify their effect.

A post-reassessment tax hike will have the same effect, in aggregate, as a pre-reassessment tax hike. That can be proved mathematically, and in fact many posters - myself included - have shown you that proof before.

The "windfall thing" that you're referring to is a state law. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make that any less true.
Yeah, you are right. When my assessment goes up $100K and they raise the millage rate another mill AGAIN, it has the same effect as it would if I was assessed at my old assessment. What was I thinking?
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:07 AM
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Sure is an interesting group of money spenders here. The county just raised its taxes by over 21%. Now they are going to raise it again. My school district raised its taxes for the past three years in a row. All is great, nothing to see here. Go along your merry way! It is a beautiful day outside, go and enjoy! Nothing to be concerned about. Homestead tax exemption? Why would we want that? Millage increases? Keep them coming. All is great! Brian says it is the state's fault, so there really is no effect on us. I will be out another few grand a year. So what? No big deal.

Anyone hiring midnights? Who has time to sleep when there is work to be done. Need to get that third job moving. Sleep? What is that for?
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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All this worry about money coming from someone who drives a Rolls-Royce.
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:12 AM
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The main point of this thread is a warning to the people of Allegheny County. Taxes are going up again, so try and get ready to spend more on owning any real estate in our region. If you are renting, expect an increase in rent, due to the massive increases in carry cost. Also, the net result will be homes will be worth less, due to the direct effect of affordability.
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