Pittsburgh: A forward-thinking city (Kittanning, Penn: to buy, construction, live in)

[gortonator]

Originally Posted by Katiana

I know someone told me to stop, but. . . .

Please stop. I can grovel

You're probably right, but I wonder if you can find out how many male dominated city councils you can find, just as another data point?

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by eschaton

Indeed, in a lot of cities (Chicago for one) despite having continual Democratic mayors, they almost always govern in the same way you'd expect a Republican to.

Once someone actually starts governing and they want to continue, I think they realize there is only so much you can tax people, and they have to look at ways to attract new taxpayers to the jurisdiction, keep the current taxpayers in town and keep the budget under control- even if those ideas are "Republican".

But they still govern from the left as far as the social issues including abortion, gun control and gay rights, areas where they have a lot more flexibility to appeal to their base without risking fiscal insolvency.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by gortonator

Please stop. I can grovel

You're probably right, but I wonder if you can find out how many male dominated city councils you can find, just as another data point?

I'll stop when people quit posting that this is so amazing. It's not.

The Omaha (bigger than Pittsburgh) city council has 6 men and one woman.
Omaha City Council - Council Members

[fat lou]

Originally Posted by Sealtite

No, this thread will do. Gnutella labeled this thread "Pittsburgh: A forward-thinking city", and then proceeded to cite the fact that women can, and do achieve public office in the city of Pittsburgh. When I originally viewed this thread's topic heading, I became intrigued and was hoping to discover some sort of mind blowing revelation within it's contents. Instead all I got was a lukewarm tidbit of data that I found to be neither exiting, groundbreaking, nor noteworthy given the fact that this is 2013 after all.

Given the anticlimactic reading experience I've just had, as well as the proverbial "in" Gnutella provided by his/her choice of wording for this thread, I felt it prudent to inject the topic of race relations into the discussion. I feel, from a current-events standpoint anyway, that if you're going to call Pittsburgh "forward thinking" and cite gender relations as an example as to why it's a "forward thinking" city, I'd counter that assertion with the topic of the city's utterly deplorable race relations. So tell me Hopes....Would you be so brave as to label the city of Pittsburgh "forward-thinking" based solely on the fact that woman are as successful in reaching public office as men, while ignoring the topic of race relations?

So how are the race relations in the backwoods of Armstrong County?

[gortonator]

Originally Posted by fat lou

So how are the race relations in the backwoods of Armstrong County?

I wish I'd chose the user name 'fat lou' - it's epic

[gortonator]

Originally Posted by Katiana

I'll stop when people quit posting that this is so amazing. It's not.

The Omaha (bigger than Pittsburgh) city council has 6 men and one woman.
Omaha City Council - Council Members

keep going - more male dominated Pittsburgh-sized city councils. We need the full facts

[fat lou]

Originally Posted by zman63

It is a very conservative city. I agree with you. The Pittsburgh region reflects old old america in its demographics. Most of the country was this way in the 1980s. Everybody else diversified/evolved over the last 25 to 30 years and pittsburgh remained the same. However the inner city of pittsburgh is really the only area to change in the region. It has become more progressive albeit very slowly.

Philadelphia might not be a well oiled machine, but its suburbs have become very openminded, diverse, progressive and liberal. Pittsburgh's suburbs still identify with the 1980's Reagan demographic.

If you ever notice during the last few presidential elections that western pa doesn't really mean much anymore. All of the votes are out of philly and its surrounding suburban counties.

No place in this country is really "diverse," every metro area is generally racially segregated. In some of the upper-middle class suburbs you might find a sizable Asian population, but that's about it. You won't see many blacks or hispanics in those neighborhoods. That's the way it is New York, San Francisco, LA, and anywhere else. And "openminded" and "progressive and liberal" are two things that usually do not go together.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by gortonator

keep going - more male dominated Pittsburgh-sized city councils. We need the full facts

Gnutella should have done that before he made his opening post, since he thought Pittsburgh's situation was so unique.

Here are the cities on either side of Pittsburgh in population:

Lexington-Fayette, KY:
6 women, 8 men
http://www.lexingtonky.gov/index.aspx?page=325

Corpus Christi, TX
4 women, 4 men, woman mayor
http://www.cctexas.com/city-council/index

Sorry, I just can't find these male-dominated councils for you. I'm done.

[Sealtite]

Originally Posted by fat lou

So how are the race relations in the backwoods of Armstrong County?

Who gives a ****? We're talking about Pittsburgh.

[fat lou]

Originally Posted by Sealtite

Who gives a ****? We're talking about Pittsburgh.

I give a ****. You know what my point is. Who are you to carry on about race relations when you live in a place that is all white?