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[gg]

Originally Posted by prnlvsxy

• I think police unions are a big part of the problem.
• I think there's not enough oversight, and too much "look the other way" within the ranks.
• I think it's odd that someone has to have a license to cut hair, but not to be a police officer. Actually, I think it's a little odd that someone needs a license to cut hair to begin with, but the point remains. There should be a certification/licensing body similar to doctors, etc. so that bad cops can't just move and get a job in another town/state.

People can't just walk in and get a badge. You need to go to a school for it. There are a couple of schools in our area. One is near Pittsburgh Police Training Academy and the other is in the North Hills, Allegheny County Police Academy. You need to pass tests and so-on. I expect there are state schools as well. If you have a Criminal Justice Degree, I think you can bypass some things or all of it. Not sure.

The job is insanely tough, especially now that the media and far left have focus on every tiny mistake made. They are still human and that kind of stress takes a toll as we can see.

[villageidiot1]

Originally Posted by prnlvsxy

• I think police unions are a big part of the problem.
• I think there's not enough oversight, and too much "look the other way" within the ranks.
• I think it's odd that someone has to have a license to cut hair, but not to be a police officer. Actually, I think it's a little odd that someone needs a license to cut hair to begin with, but the point remains. There should be a certification/licensing body similar to doctors, etc. so that bad cops can't just move and get a job in another town/state.

I agree with your first two points. Regarding your third point, you do need to be certified.

Originally Posted by gg

People can't just walk in and get a badge. You need to go to a school for it. There are a couple of schools in our area. One is near Pittsburgh Police Training Academy and the other is in the North Hills, Allegheny County Police Academy. You need to pass tests and so-on. I expect there are state schools as well. If you have a Criminal Justice Degree, I think you can bypass some things or all of it. Not sure.

The job is insanely tough, especially now that the media and far left have focus on every tiny mistake made. They are still human and that kind of stress takes a toll as we can see.

I don't know about the requirements in other states, but all the information for PA is located here: https://mpoetc.psp.pa.gov/Pages/mpoetc.aspx

To be employed as a police officer in the state of Pennsylvania, an individual must successfully complete a certified Act 120 program and pass the MPOETC state certification exam. The program is about 22 weeks and 919 hours.

[prnlvsxy]

This is a post from a former Ontario officer. If you think this kind of thing is an exception, I have a bridge to sell you.

Want to know why it’s so hard for #cops to be ‘good apples’...

It was 2007 and I was assisting a call with an officer I’d never met before. He was from another team working overtime. Right in front of me he broke a kids nose with a punch. The septum was clearly deviated and
blood was everywhere. The kid was handcuffed and the officer enquired of me “what should ‘we’ arrest him for?” “What did he do?” I enquired. “He called me a name.” he said. After 20 mins of him trying to persuade me we should fabricate a crime he had to let the kid go. “We need

to do notes, get our story straight” he then told me. I don’t need assistance in writing what happened. I found a quiet place and wrote the facts. As I wrote I was joined by a female A/Sgt who knew this officer. She spent 20 mins trying to convince me this kid was a “****bag” &

my notes should ‘reflect the danger he posed’. I was disgusted. We don’t behave this way. I went to the Platoon Commander and provide a statement for the assault I’d witnessed. An investigation commenced, one which should have been forwarded to @SIUOntario. The investigator
asked me questions like “How do you know his nose was broken?” and “Where did you get your medical degree?” (seriously?) Then came the result, a phone call from the Suptintendent whilst I was home. “Paul, our investigation is complete and you’ve been found guilt of misconduct

in that you failed to communicate with a colleague. A verbal warning will be put on file. Be careful in the future.” When I got back to work I was move from my team, and away from my friends, to this officers team. Officers just point blank refused to talk to me and I went to

many calls by myself, without backup. Then a message from another officer on team to meet him. He told me how we “look after” each other on this team. “Don’t stab each other in the back.” Then for some ****ed up reason, he dropped the ‘n-bomb’ out of nowhere. I just drove off

leaving him sat there. Then I was called into the Deputy Chiefs office, with the same Superintendent and my Union rep. In front of both he told me to “be careful what you say in the future or you might not get backup when you need it.” I was an A/Inspector when I left the Met in

2005 to move to #Canada, but my appraisal that year reflected incompetence and unworthiness of the position of constable. Every position or course I applied for I was refused. I continued to #whistleblow until the Chief told me “You really have no concept of brotherhood, do you?”
Then I whistleblew #anonymous. 2015ish after going off sick with #PTSD from an attempt murder I went public with everything, to be met with a ‘covert operation’ by not only senior management by member of the City council and lawyers, telling anyone who would listen I’m “nuts,
crazy and delusional.” This is how they deal with officers who tried to do the right thing. Two warrants on my home, numerous criminal investigation and one arrest later and I’ll still do the right thing no matter what they try and do to me.

The officer who broke that kids nose is now a Sergeant, probably helping others cover up their wrongdoings. Me, I’m off sick and will probably never find gainful employment again. Was it worth it. ****, no! Would I do the same? ****, yes! Would I advise other officers to break

the ‘blue wall of silence.’ Well thats for them to decide, but it will end your career.

Until you offer protection for ‘good apples’ you asking them to give up their careers b/c of someone elses wrongdoing.

[szug-bot]

Originally Posted by prnlvsxy

This is a post from a former Ontario officer. If you think this kind of thing is an exception, I have a bridge to sell you.



2005 to move to #Canada, but my appraisal that year reflected incompetence and unworthiness of the position of constable. Every position or course I applied for I was refused. I continued to #whistleblow until

Oh, not California, but Canada....i thought so - your username used to be Sparrowmint!