Pittsburgh lags badly in median household income (condo, inspection)

[Knepper3]

I hate commenting on much of this anymore but that logic also does not make sense. You also can not jump to the far other side saying the US has 328M people so 1%..... This is not some scifi movie where just being in the same city means you catch it. From everything I have read it is slightly more contagious than the regular flu. I'm not debating any other aspect but assuming it is even somewhat more contagious the flu only infects 9-43 million, nowhere near 328M. Lets not start going from one extreme to another and keep things in reality.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Knepper3

I hate commenting on much of this anymore but that logic also does not make sense. You also can not jump to the far other side saying the US has 328M people so 1%..... This is not some scifi movie where just being in the same city means you catch it. From everything I have read it is slightly more contagious than the regular flu. I'm not debating any other aspect but assuming it is even somewhat more contagious the flu only infects 9-43 million, nowhere near 328M. Lets not start going from one extreme to another and keep things in reality.

Double Bingo

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by Knepper3

I hate commenting on much of this anymore but that logic also does not make sense. You also can not jump to the far other side saying the US has 328M people so 1%..... This is not some scifi movie where just being in the same city means you catch it. From everything I have read it is slightly more contagious than the regular flu. I'm not debating any other aspect but assuming it is even somewhat more contagious the flu only infects 9-43 million, nowhere near 328M. Lets not start going from one extreme to another and keep things in reality.

If you presume uncontrolled spread, most epidemiologists believe the R0 factor will be above 1 (meaning the number infected will grow) until 70% of the population is infected. This means about 230 million Americans infected.

Presume 1% mortality, and the ultimate number of casualties is about 2.3 million.

Thankfully a vaccine will likely be available before we hit herd immunity levels.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by eschaton

If you presume uncontrolled spread, most epidemiologists believe the R0 factor will be above 1 (meaning the number infected will grow) until 70% of the population is infected. This means about 230 million Americans infected.

Presume 1% mortality, and the ultimate number of casualties is about 2.3 million.

Thankfully a vaccine will likely be available before we hit herd immunity levels.

I find it interesting that so many are banking on a vaccine for a virus that experts obviously know little about. Hopefully they’ll come up with something for the flu while they’re at it.

[gg]

Originally Posted by eschaton

If you presume uncontrolled spread, most epidemiologists believe the R0 factor will be above 1 (meaning the number infected will grow) until 70% of the population is infected. This means about 230 million Americans infected.

Presume 1% mortality, and the ultimate number of casualties is about 2.3 million.

Thankfully a vaccine will likely be available before we hit herd immunity levels.

Considering how many people have had this or have it and show no symptoms and will never be tested, I think the mortality rate would be wildly lower than 1%. Not saying we should do anything different as far as masks, but I do feel we should just reopen and be smart about it. We can't just print money and pretend everything is going to be okay. We all know who will suffer the most if we really hit hard times. Lets keep things in perspective on that.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by Craziaskowboi

Hey, sorry I've been away, everybody. Anyway, this is weird. Upon closer inspection, Pittsburgh's median household income in this age cohort doesn't look very low to me, like all the others do. In fact, it appears to be higher than any similarly-sized metropolitan area within 500 miles except Baltimore. Hmmmm...

Another weird thing I've noticed is, "young people are fleeing in droves" appears to have been replaced by "middle-aged people are fleeing in droves." It's almost as if there's a specific year-of-birth cohort (1965-1980) that's just plain underrepresented in Pittsburgh, and always will be, and whichever age cohort they age into will be the one that's "fleeing in droves."

And this is for a city that has below average wages overall. Currently the Unemployment in the city is 15.9%, County 14.3% and Metro 14.3%. Other peer cities have lower unemployment rates. Pittsburgh’s actually increased 1.5% while other peer cities decreased. 170,000 on unemployment in the Pittsburgh metro and the city is on track to be -100 million on their budget due to this. I’m not sure how rosy that number is you post this time.

I’d venture the high unemployment is going to impact population numbers as well.

[PghPatriot]

Yet more data for the "only 1% die, so what's the big deal?" crowd:


https://outline.com/H7wEKL


Mind you, these are young athletes, not the old frail people that some have such little use for...

During a State College Area school board of directors meeting on Monday night, Wayne Sebastianelli — Penn State’s director of athletic medicine — made some alarming comments about the link between COVID-19 and myocarditis, particularly in Big Ten athletes. Sebastianelli said that cardiac MRI scans revealed that approximately a third of Big Ten athletes who tested positive for COVID-19 appeared to have myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle that can be fatal if left unchecked.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by PghPatriot

Yet more data for the "only 1% die, so what's the big deal?" crowd:


https://outline.com/H7wEKL


Mind you, these are young athletes, not the old frail people that some have such little use for...

I don’t recall anyone saying it’s no big deal, and there’s many claims of it being less than 1%.

Much like those athletes, people are simply weighing the consequences and choosing not to live their lives in fear, or choose to let everything collapse due to a virus with a 98%+ survival rate...and for those that choose or feel otherwise, it’s simple enough to stay home and come out when it’s over.

[PghPatriot]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I don’t recall anyone saying it’s no big deal, and there’s many claims of it being less than 1%.

People are simply weighing the consequences and choosing not to live their lives in fear, or choose to let everything collapse due to a virus with a 98%+ survival rate...and for those that choose or feel otherwise, it’s simple enough to stay home and come out when it’s over.

You keep using the word 'fear' to frame your argument, but it's quite transparent.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by PghPatriot

You keep using the word 'fear' to frame your argument, but it's quite transparent.

I’m not trying to frame anything.

You’re assuming people haven’t weighed the consequences and haven’t made decisions based upon them. Not everyone shares or needs to share your feelings. People are just living life rather than choosing to live in fear.