How are small local restaurants and cafes going to survive the winter? (Braddock: insurance, tenant)

[svband76]

Originally Posted by Merge

It is a great place if you have kids.
Why did you take your folks there? Did they request it?

Exactly. Eat n Park has been constantly raising prices for the last few years. I call it taking advantage of the hometown loyalty. Kind of like Giant Eagle. I'd rather spend $45 at a fine restaurant.

[Merge]

Originally Posted by zalewskimm

Exactly. Eat n Park has been constantly raising prices for the last few years. I call it taking advantage of the hometown loyalty. Kind of like Giant Eagle. I'd rather spend $45 at a fine restaurant.

I'm with you on that. I liked when my kid wanted to go there only because of the mix of fresh veggies they had on the salad bar. Everywhere else he liked when he was younger had fast food with no healthy options at all. Still... the older crowd does seem to stick by their "time-tested favorites".

Of course nowadays, salad bars and buffets are a non-starter for me...

[gg]

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

how grown adults don't understand both parties are controlled by the same banks and corporations is beyond me

I wouldn't go that far actually. Carter for example didn't go along with big oil and look what happened to him. So he wasn't actually controlled for 4 years. In the end he was ousted.

I also don't think Trump is "controlled", but no doubt has dealings going on as they all do. Biden would be totally controlled. That is a given. One of the reasons Trump is being targeted like no other president in history, is he is hard to control. I have never seen a president attacked like this. The media, other politicians, Washington regulars, leaders of some states, mayors and more. Why? It isn't so much what Trump is actually doing as he has done some good, but it a lousy speaker, it is more about the fact that he is hard to control. That is why he is being attacked. Will the attacks work? In the end, yes. They failed at the Russia thing, sex/rape thing, they impeached him, but he continues on. He is hated by the other deal makers on the inside. Hollywood/media machine can't stand someone that just goes around them, so they will do everything in their power to defeat him. It is a shame Trump can't keep his mouth shut, but he just can't. Too bad.

So I guess I am saying many are totally controlled by the powers while in there like a Biden will be. I would say, Carter and Trump although completely different types of people weren't controlled, or at least they tried not to be controlled. Odd and even gas, high oil prices which crushes economies especially back then and the powers got Carter out. Trump is going to be taken out because the powerful media machine that wants him out and that mouth of his that they can use for their own agendas.

[Merge]

Originally Posted by gg

I wouldn't go that far actually. Carter for example didn't go along with big oil and look what happened to him. So he wasn't actually controlled for 4 years. In the end he was ousted.

I also don't think Trump is "controlled", but no doubt has dealings going on as they all do. Biden would be totally controlled. That is a given. One of the reasons Trump is being targeted like no other president in history, is he is hard to control. I have never seen a president attacked like this. The media, other politicians, Washington regulars, leaders of some states, mayors and more. Why? It isn't so much what Trump is actually doing as he has done some good, but it a lousy speaker, it is more about the fact that he is hard to control. That is why he is being attacked. Will the attacks work? In the end, yes. They failed at the Russia thing, sex/rape thing, they impeached him, but he continues on. He is hated by the other deal makers on the inside. Hollywood/media machine can't stand someone that just goes around them, so they will do everything in their power to defeat him. It is a shame Trump can't keep his mouth shut, but he just can't. Too bad.

So I guess I am saying many are totally controlled by the powers while in there like a Biden will be. I would say, Carter and Trump although completely different types of people weren't controlled, or at least they tried not to be controlled. Odd and even gas, high oil prices which crushes economies especially back then and the powers got Carter out. Trump is going to be taken out because the powerful media machine that wants him out and that mouth of his that they can use for their own agendas.

Who gives a **** what you think about any of this?

The topic of the thread is small local restaurants.

You've just been told (over on the Braddock thread) that people don't come on these boards to see every other post about politics, and here you are.
Take your petty bull**** to FB.

[BUILD PENN SQUARE]

what i object to is the capitalism-at-any-cost ideology, like who cares if small restaurants and cafes have to close, national chains will just swoop in and replace them

having lived in shadyside most of my life i have seen this ideology at work on walnut street, which used to be super cool and unique and is now on its way to becoming an outdoor ross park mall, not that ross park mall is bad but that type of retail mix doesn't add value to a neighborhood or make it special in any way

[Independentthinking83]

I don’t think the local restaurant scene was spectacular before the pandemic. I always had issues with food quality at a lot of places. I don’t want to see places go out of business, but a right sizing is needed. Hopefully it leads to better quality food where you have the best talent making the food instead of no cooking talents trying to put a meal together.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

wolf AND TRUMP - the president supports all the CDC protocols with respect to masks and (doublespeak trigger warning) "social distancing" that have led to the small-business destroying restrictions

how grown adults don't understand both parties are controlled by the same banks and corporations is beyond me

Wolf is one of very few governors keeping things shut down. Trump let the governors do their job. If Trump overruled him, the rants by Dems would be endless.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

wolf AND TRUMP - the president supports all the CDC protocols with respect to masks and (doublespeak trigger warning) "social distancing" that have led to the small-business destroying restrictions

how grown adults don't understand both parties are controlled by the same banks and corporations is beyond me

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

what i object to is the capitalism-at-any-cost ideology, like who cares if small restaurants and cafes have to close, national chains will just swoop in and replace them

having lived in shadyside most of my life i have seen this ideology at work on walnut street, which used to be super cool and unique and is now on its way to becoming an outdoor ross park mall, not that ross park mall is bad but that type of retail mix doesn't add value to a neighborhood or make it special in any way

Don’t recall anyone saying they don’t care, just that it’s what will happen.

Vote for a governor that doesn’t have the “because I said so” mentality next time. Problem solved.

[gg]

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

what i object to is the capitalism-at-any-cost ideology, like who cares if small restaurants and cafes have to close, national chains will just swoop in and replace them

having lived in shadyside most of my life i have seen this ideology at work on walnut street, which used to be super cool and unique and is now on its way to becoming an outdoor ross park mall, not that ross park mall is bad but that type of retail mix doesn't add value to a neighborhood or make it special in any way

Just because someone objects to the dictator wolf, doesn't mean they want a free for all atmosphere. It isn't all or nothing. It is a balance. As we can clearly see the virus is weaker and hospitals have this down, unless of course you are very compromised in your health. As cold air hits and we can't do outdoor seating because Peduto lacks leadership. He is too busy drunk tweeting and doing nothing constructive. How about closing some streets downtown and preparing for cold weather? Why doesn't this mayor do ANYTHING AT ALL??? How many people are going to be out of work?

Shadyside was cool back in the 80's and 90's. Totally different than today. Then Ellsworth sort of took its place, but it was much smaller and not all that great in comparison to the old days of Walnut. Great times. There are still some cool bars around both streets though.

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by Merge

Who gives a **** what you think about any of this?

The topic of the thread is small local restaurants.

You've just been told (over on the Braddock thread) that people don't come on these boards to see every other post about politics, and here you are.
Take your petty bull**** to FB.