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Old 11-28-2009, 07:34 AM
 
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Using Thanksgiving as my guide...I remember Michigan Thanksgivings would always have a good six inches of snow solidly on the ground, and many times even be actually snowing on Thanksgiving day.

So usually by this time, you would be lucky to see some green grass again by year's end..and looking into permanant white scenery with that freezer-like feel for the next 3-4 months solidly.

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The fact you are just getting snow that has already melted seems to say it is much milder than MI!
Without a doubt. Snow around Thanksgiving is very rare. Even snow around Christmas is noteworthy. A white Christmas is rather rare here.
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Old 11-28-2009, 07:57 AM
 
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Without a doubt. Snow around Thanksgiving is very rare. Even snow around Christmas is noteworthy. A white Christmas is rather rare here.


[edit] White Christmases in the United States

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/US_White_Christmas_Map.gif (broken link)
Map of the Lower 48 States showing the probability of a White Christmas (courtesy of NWS St. Louis, Missouri)


According to the National Climatic Data Center, basing numbers upon 1988-2005 data and stations with at least 25 years of data, the probability of a White Christmas (one inch of snow on the ground) at selected cities is as follows:[5]
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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 33%
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:05 AM
 
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Thanks, Copanut! The chart validates Tiger Beer's conclusion that Pittsburgh's winter is milder comapred to Michigan.

33% falls right in line with what I consider rare for a white Christmas. For a 40 year old, that would be only 13 Christmases with snow.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:13 AM
 
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Be a successful baseball player by hitting the ball 33% of the time and you're in the hall of fame. 33% may be rare in baseball, but not in the real world.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:17 AM
 
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Actually Pittsburgh should get about 3 inches of snow in November and 7 inches in December, so I wouldn't say that it's rare, it's just not enough snow on average to keep it around like it would in January.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:27 AM
 
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Perhaps, but Denver is odd. They can get snowstorms very early (September), then return to the 70s and sun. I would not consider Pittsburgh milder than Denver. In an absolute sense of variation and seasonality yes, but winters are probably more pleasant in Denver overall. But yes, I agree it does seem fairly late for them to get their first snow. Pittsburgh seems more like Oregon.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:32 AM
 
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Rare

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Any occurrence with a probability of less than 5%, but greater than 0%
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:41 AM
 
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Denver again?!?!
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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Any occurrence with a probability of less than 5%, but greater than 0%
Okay. Does 'occasional' work better for you?
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:43 AM
 
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Denver again?!?!
Why not? I did not initiate any discussion of Denver on this thread. Just thought I'd contribute some interesting data. Maybe you'll like this one with the dancing Santas better!

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/bou/?n=den_xmassnow
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