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Old 06-29-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Really? Then why are there several hundred churches in and around Dearborn? Google Maps
It's obvious that you have no knowledge whatsoever of Dearborn and it's surroundings. I, on the other hand, could likely give you driving directions to most of these churches because I grew up there. It may have been 10 years since I left the area, but I still have family members in Dearborn, Detroit and most of the other suburbs and, believe me, if it was as 'bad' as you're trying to make it out to be, they'd all be chattering about it and I've heard not one word from any of them.
Just checked the link and for some reason it doesn't bring up the map as I though it would. So, type in (or copy and paste) churches in Dearborn Michigan in the search bar.


The Dearborn police didn't close churches. They forced citizens of the United States to cease exercising their Constitutional right to freely exercise their religion.

FYI...in the early eighties I lived in an upper flat on Calhoun by the Murry's, but it was Peaches Records back then.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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People within the crowd were cheering, shouting "Allah akbar!" while clapping and shouting. The police continued walking out of the group. When a single man shouted "Jesus is Lord!" one officer who had already passed him, came back and told him to "be quiet". Neither of the officers said anything to the crowd of Muslims that were cheering, while shouting "Allah akbar!"

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And if a group of Muslims imposed themselves on a Christmas parade, interrupting a group of Christians singing Christmas carols, shouting Allah Akbar, then the police officer would tell the Muslims to be quiet. Because deliberately provoking a riot is potentially a dangerous thing to do. And the police officer is charged with maintaining the peace.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:09 PM
 
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Court Grants Motion - Pastor Allowed to Distribute Christian Literature to Muslims


"Ann Arbor — A three-judge panel of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals today granted an emergency motion for a temporary restraining order, allowing Pastor George Saieg, a Sudanese Christian, to distribute religious literature and discuss his Christian faith to Muslims attending this year’s annual Arab Festival held in Dearborn Michigan". [Click here to read order].
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:09 PM
 
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Can you post a story about Muslims being detained in the same situation?
Can you post a story about Muslims accosting Christians at a Christmas parade, or at an Easter Egg Hunt? Any stories about Muslims butting into any Christian gathering in the United States, to try to convert Christians to Islam?
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:11 PM
 
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Court Grants Motion - Pastor Allowed to Distribute Christian Literature to Muslims


"Ann Arbor — A three-judge panel of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals today granted an emergency motion for a temporary restraining order, allowing Pastor George Saieg, a Sudanese Christian, to distribute religious literature and discuss his Christian faith to Muslims attending this year’s annual Arab Festival held in Dearborn Michigan". [Click here to read order].
That was the Thursday BEFORE the Festival. And Pastor Saieg did distribute his religious literature at this year's festival. He did it without disrupting the festival. He did it without trying to provoke people. Unlike Mr Wood and his co-horts.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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Islamist Group Attacking Christians in Central Nigeria


"Clergymen say extremists blame Christian prayers for Muslim leader’s death."
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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Weren't Muslims' freedom of and from religion being just as infrindged upon by the prostylatizers outside, hmm.

the Establishment clause PROTECTS EVERYONE.

Muslims organizations have booths set up inside the fair where they distribute religious materials.

With Christian organizations banned from the same area, how is that not an establishment of religion by the City of Dearborn?

No one has a freedom from religion since that would enable them to suppress the free exercise of someone else.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Bill of Rights | LII / Legal Information Institute


Maybe you could show me the "freedom from religion" part.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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This wasn't about the free exercise of religion. These Christians were not stopped from pursuing their faith. They were stopped from starting a riot. In the same way that you cannot shout "Fire" in a crowded theater. They were free to pass out literature. They were free to fall down on their knees and pray. They were not free to accost strangers and to provoke those strangers. They were trying to disturb the peace, and their actions drew the attention of the police.

If this were about freedom of religion, then why were the other Christian groups present freely distributing their literature and chatting with people?


I'm calling BS...


Prove it!
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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Islamists attack Pakistani Christian village to avenge blasphemy’

"A Muslim mob of 500 attacked a Christian village of Punjab province on May 1 at 11:00 am Pakistan time to avenge the alleged blasphemy that they claim was committed by some five Christian men a few days ago, ANS has learnt, reports Dan Wooding and Sheraz Khurram Khan, special to ASSIST News Service."
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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Islamists mounting bomb attacks on Christians
in South Lebanon


"NICOSIA — Lebanon has ordered its security forces to prepare for a crackdown against Islamist insurgents who have targeted the Christian community in the south
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