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Saudi has already ordered the Euro fighter, which even according to several high ranking U.S. general officers who have flown both, say the Euro is slightly superior. Now, the big point was they were purchased w/out long-range capabilities. But will get them through a 2nd source. Thus the Eurofighter was able to get around the initial ITAR requirement.
Israelis control 70% of the Gazan strip. At this point, even "Palestinian" land isn't actually controlled by Palestinians. Economically, they're forced into a mode of failure because of the limits put on their imports and exports - and good luck getting from WB to Gaza, since, hilariously, Israel controls that too. They're set up to fail and then want the entire world to be proud of them at how well they're doing economically IN COMPARISON to the terrorists that they're housing like zoo animals. $#^% Israel and anyone who doesn't see through the transparency.
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Where exactly do you get your data? 70% of Gaza is controlled by Israel? Source please.
Israel does still control parts of the WB but they are trying to work out a solution to safely hand over more control to the PA. Now if PA controlled all of the WB do you really think they would allow people from Hamas-controlled Gaza to enter? Hamas is a friend of no one but Hamas.
And the terrorists behave like animals, and thus are treated like animals.
We've armed just about every country in the ME...giving them the tools to fight their wars and continue their childish saber rattling. I mean, what is the point?
no you dont get it, and that is sad. israel is not the victims of the entire world, just the middle east. as i said for the most part israel is NOT the aggressor, the arabs are. hamas and hesbolah both want israel wiped off the map. to that end they constantly provoke israel into responding with force. you cant constantly poke a dog with a stick and not expect the dog to fight back. as i said before both jordan and egypt have signed peace treaties with israel, and since those treaties have been signed, those countries ahve not gone to war with israel, and israel has not attacked them. if your mind was not so clouded with hate for israel, perhaps you would see that i am right.
israel has only wanted to be left alone, but like anyone else, if you constantly provoke them, they will respond, and when they do, you will not like it.
Israel isn't the aggressor? I suggest you look at some history. The entire creation of the state of Israel WAS AN ACT OF AGRESSION! The creation of Israel was done by a United Nations mandate and basically shoved down the throats of the Arab world. A primary motive for doing this was to assuage the guilt of the leading powers of the world for permitting the Holocaust to happen.
Because the Arabs didn't agree with the UN Mandate a civil war broke out and many Arabs either fled or were expelled from their homes which in some cases had been in their families for centuries. Let's just add here that the Jews in Palestine received covert military and logistical aid from the United States, Great Britain and Jewish organizations around the world. This civil war included the creation of Israel as an independent state in 1947 from what was previously referred to as Palestine. This civil war was immediately followed by the Arab-Israeli War of 1948 as other Arab nations i.e. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq fought to expel Jews from land that had been occupied by Arabs for centuries. It's estimated that between the civil war and the Arab-Israeli War about 80% of the Arab-Palestinian population was displaced.
Now let me pose this question to you. How would you feel if all of a sudden the United Nations decided another group of people (I.E. the American Indians ) for example where entitled to YOUR HOME and you and your family were FORCIBLY EXPELLED OR FLED UNDER THE THREAT OF DEATH FROM YOUR HOME.
It bet you'd be a little pissed.
And you might also understand why some people in the Arab world have some animosity towards the United States.
Where exactly do you get your data? 70% of Gaza is controlled by Israel? Source please.
Israel does still control parts of the WB but they are trying to work out a solution to safely hand over more control to the PA. Now if PA controlled all of the WB do you really think they would allow people from Hamas-controlled Gaza to enter? Hamas is a friend of no one but Hamas.
And the terrorists behave like animals, and thus are treated like animals.
Wrong the terroist behave like people who were expelled from homes they lived in for centuries with no due process and and no compensation. If somebody kicked you out of your home or told you to leave or die and all you could take was whatever you could carry or transport at the time YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE PISSED TOO!
Where do you get these delusional ideas? If you're actually interested in this topic, take a trip to Ramullah and understand what's actually going on - not what the NY Times is feeding you.
The NY Times runs many anti-Israel columns so I don't know what you're implying.
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There have been over 225 UN Resolutions ignored by Israel - some would leave you condemning the state of Israel forever. Look at land maps - largely ignored by the government as well that continues to fuel the aggression AGAINST Israel right now! They completely disregard what isn't theirs in an effort to enlarge what they have. Meanwhile, no one in the U.S. has any idea what's going on because what you see reported is anti-Israeli aggression, not Israeli terror.
One third of all UN resolutions have been passed against Israel. Do you really think one third of all human rights violations are committed by a handful of Jews?
What fuels aggression against Israel is Palestinian delusions about kicking Jews into the sea and an Islamic world all too willing to aid and abet that desire.
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You must ask yourself: WHY is everyone angry at Israel? At least, that'd be my first question. Many will believe the propaganda that it's a religious hatred fueled by Muslims who cannot stand the fact that the Jews received a homeland from Britain. I'm sure for some it is - quite frankly, I don't get religious zealotry. But when you realize that under the Ottoman Empire, Muslims and Jews lived in relative harmony, then one might come to the conclusion that it's more sociopolitical and not religious.
Jews were second class citizens in most Islamic countries and still are today. In Jordan for example no Jew can own legally own land. The Saudis refuse to admit anyone with an Israeli passport and fill their textbooks with anti-Semitic rubbish. The modern day Islamic world kicked out many Jews from Arab Jewish communities that existed before Islam did. Go look up the word dhimmi.
The harmony you're alluding to never existed and still doesn't.
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To me, it's blatant. You have two countries that were promised what couldn't be given by the West. One country, however, received its promise while another got the slightly short end of the stick. Both countries are home to people who irrationally believe that they have stock in that land essentially as a gift from God and that if anyone should take it from them, they should fight. Israel was given far more commodity, nukes, weaponry than Palestine and they've been wielding it ever since. The Arab world can't stand them for their transgressions - both in the past and currently, and quite frankly, I was witness to them too and I can't blame them. It's maddening that they've been able to get away with what they have. And what happens in retaliation? The UN condemns them and of course, nothing happens.
The Palestinians have been funded to the tune of billions. They still are today. They were offered a country many times. They turned it down many times. The Islamic world simply can't stand the thought of Jews -- who are viewed as ineffectual and contemptible in much of the Islamic world -- wielding any power.
That's largely the heart of the conflict. You can talk about all this land Israel allegedly received but if you actually look on a map you'll see it's about the size of NJ in an area that's far larger. Hardly this enormous tract of land implied repeatedly by Palestinian apologists and their allies.
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Israelis control 70% of the Gazan strip. At this point, even "Palestinian" land isn't actually controlled by Palestinians. Economically, they're forced into a mode of failure because of the limits put on their imports and exports - and good luck getting from WB to Gaza, since, hilariously, Israel controls that too. They're set up to fail and then want the entire world to be proud of them at how well they're doing economically IN COMPARISON to the terrorists that they're housing like zoo animals. $#^% Israel and anyone who doesn't see through the transparency.
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FYI, the Egyptians also block off Gaza too.
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I'd at least like to call it fair down the middle. Strap a bomb to yourself and walk into a market - terrorism; Kill innocent children with a bomb dropped off by an Israeli tank - ALSO terrorism. Throwing rocks at tanks - a mild form of terrorism; Fire tear gas into Palestinian villages - ALSO terrorism.
Don't act like Israel is innocent.
And don't act as if the Palestinians and their rather vile allies are all peaches and cream either. The covenant of Hamas calls for the murder of all Jews. The Palestinians have repeatedly made it clear that aim to establish an Islamic state solely for Muslims and no one else.
The fact that that kind of theocratic nationalism attracts so much support continually amazes me. Anti-Semitism and Islamic oil money are a truly unattractive combination. How sad much of the world seems determined to listen to the call of that siren and support a "cause" they would otherwise find completely repulsive!
Wrong the terroist behave like people who were expelled from homes they lived in for centuries with no due process and and no compensation. If somebody kicked you out of your home or told you to leave or die and all you could take was whatever you could carry or transport at the time YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE PISSED TOO!
You're right, I sure would be upset. But you forget several points. The land did not belong to them in the first place. How did the arabs get there? Maybe they asked nicely if they could move in. But no, they conquered violently with aggression and war. Is that a legitimate way to acquire land? History says yes, as that is quite common. But the difference between that and Israel being created was that Jews lived there way before the words arab or Palestinian were even invented. Add that to the fact that the UN created the Jewish state of Israel, I think you can come to your own conclusions about who has a more legitimate claim to the land. The group of people calling themselves Palestinians are nothing more than leftovers from the conquerors of hundreds of years ago.
Separation is what is needed. The same thing happened when India was partitioned between Hindus and Muslims. Hindus were forcibly kicked out of areas of what became Pakistan and Muslims were kicked out of what stayed as India. These things happen but both groups are better for it.
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