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Old 08-20-2010, 05:29 PM
 
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Muslims, not Americans, are religious bigots | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Muslims-not-Americans-are-religious-bigots--101125989.html - broken link)

This new argument from the Left that America must "prove" it is not religiously bigoted toward Islam by allowing this disgraceful mosque oh sorry, community center, to be built near Ground Zero, is bogus. America proves it every day in the thousands of mosques that have already been built here peacefully and by the fact that there have been no acts of violence against the many thousands of Muslims who live here after one of their freaks murders innocents in the name of Islam (e.g. Ford Hood murderer).

As far as I'm concerned, it is Islam that must prove to the rest of the world that they are truly peaceful and not religiously bigoted against 'infidels'.

As far as I can tell, Islam has proven itself to be an epic FAIL in that department.
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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Well said. Now just wait for the usual Islam defenders to come in here and say Christians are just as bad.

When I go to Times Square, I am not worried about a Christian blowing me up to pieces.
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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<snip>When I go to Times Square, I am not worried about a Christian blowing me up to pieces.
No the christian might just stab you in the back....
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:52 PM
 
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Well said. Now just wait for the usual Islam defenders to come in here and say Christians are just as bad.

When I go to Times Square, I am not worried about a Christian blowing me up to pieces.
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No the christian might just stab you in the back....
We didn't have to wait long, did we.
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:54 PM
 
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Muslims, not Americans, are religious bigots | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Muslims-not-Americans-are-religious-bigots--101125989.html - broken link)

This new argument from the Left that America must "prove" it is not religiously bigoted toward Islam by allowing this disgraceful mosque oh sorry, community center, to be built near Ground Zero, is bogus. America proves it every day in the thousands of mosques that have already been built here peacefully and by the fact that there have been no acts of violence against the many thousands of Muslims who live here after one of their freaks murders innocents in the name of Islam (e.g. Ford Hood murderer).

As far as I'm concerned, it is Islam that must prove to the rest of the world that they are truly peaceful and not religiously bigoted against 'infidels'.

As far as I can tell, Islam has proven itself to be an epic FAIL in that department.
well....technically, some Americans are muslims.....

but I get the point. We don't need to let them build a victory monument of a mosque in the name of political correctness.

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No the christian might just stab you in the back....
I've never ever once heard of a Christian stabbing someone or blowing someone up while screaming "Allah akbar!" or "God is great!". My point is that they don't do it in the name of Christianity in the hope of 72 virgins after they die.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:36 PM
 
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I've never ever once heard of a Christian stabbing someone or blowing someone up while screaming "Allah akbar!" or "God is great!". My point is that they don't do it in the name of Christianity in the hope of 72 virgins after they die.
You should amend that to say, "My point is that they don't do it today in the name of Christianity..."

Because, you know, torturing people to death, hanging them, burning them, running them through with a sword... all in the name of Christianity, sending their "heathen souls" to hell... I'm rather certain that their victims weren't anywhere near as concerned with WHAT they were saying, or even WHY, as they were with the pain and horror of being slaughtered by them.

No, Christians just do things like plan "Burn Quran Day"... thus ensuring we can give even more Muslims reason to hate us.

Apparently Fred Phelps and his Westboro Whackos have company now.

And here's the thing, ladies and gents... if you can't separate most followers of Islam from the psychotic and violent extremists... why on earth would you expect anyone to separate YOU from the psychotic and violent extremists hijacking YOUR religion and using it to further promote violence, hatred and discontent?

If my Muslim neighbors, friends and co-workers are somehow responsible for the terrorists, if the actions of the terrorists reflect on them... then the actions of whackjobs like Phelps and Jones is just as much YOUR responsibility, and reflects just as much on you.

Why aren't YOU stopping these nutjobs from hijacking your religion? People ask the peaceful Muslims (which far outnumber the terrorists) why they can't/won't/don't stop their bad seeds... but for some reason, Christians get a pass when it comes to stopping theirs.

How does that work exactly?
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:41 PM
 
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I've never ever once heard of a Christian stabbing someone or blowing someone up while screaming "Allah akbar!" or "God is great!". My point is that they don't do it in the name of Christianity in the hope of 72 virgins after they die.
No, Christians are sometimes simply hateful because they choose to be. Not true Christians I guess.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:41 PM
 
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Muslims, not Americans, are religious bigots | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Muslims-not-Americans-are-religious-bigots--101125989.html - broken link)

This new argument from the Left that America must "prove" it is not religiously bigoted toward Islam by allowing this disgraceful mosque oh sorry, community center, to be built near Ground Zero, is bogus. America proves it every day in the thousands of mosques that have already been built here peacefully and by the fact that there have been no acts of violence against the many thousands of Muslims who live here after one of their freaks murders innocents in the name of Islam (e.g. Ford Hood murderer).

As far as I'm concerned, it is Islam that must prove to the rest of the world that they are truly peaceful and not religiously bigoted against 'infidels'.

As far as I can tell, Islam has proven itself to be an epic FAIL in that department.
Wow, xenophobic much?

And how are you proving Americans are not bigots? because it seems pretty cleat to me, and anyone with the ability to read, that people whose screen name is dervived from a ****ty French car company is a bigot.

America is full of bigots and ignoramuses-most of us call them white Evangelical Christians from the South/Mid West/Plains.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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Well said. Now just wait for the usual Islam defenders to come in here and say Christians are just as bad.

When I go to Times Square, I am not worried about a Christian blowing me up to pieces.
You should be, considering the history of violence in this nation.

Once you have filtered out the evil muslims you will still have angry Americans looking for a bone to pick or a building to implode.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:47 PM
 
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You should amend that to say, "My point is that they don't do it today in the name of Christianity..."

Because, you know, torturing people to death, hanging them, burning them, running them through with a sword... all in the name of Christianity, sending their "heathen souls" to hell... I'm rather certain that their victims weren't anywhere near as concerned with WHAT they were saying, or even WHY, as they were with the pain and horror of being slaughtered by them.

No, Christians just do things like plan "Burn Quran Day"... thus ensuring we can give even more Muslims reason to hate us.

Apparently Fred Phelps and his Westboro Whackos have company now.

And here's the thing, ladies and gents... if you can't separate most followers of Islam from the psychotic and violent extremists... why on earth would you expect anyone to separate YOU from the psychotic and violent extremists hijacking YOUR religion and using it to further promote violence, hatred and discontent?

If my Muslim neighbors, friends and co-workers are somehow responsible for the terrorists, if the actions of the terrorists reflect on them... then the actions of whackjobs like Phelps and Jones is just as much YOUR responsibility, and reflects just as much on you.

Why aren't YOU stopping these nutjobs from hijacking your religion? People ask the peaceful Muslims (which far outnumber the terrorists) why they can't/won't/don't stop their bad seeds... but for some reason, Christians get a pass when it comes to stopping theirs.

How does that work exactly?
Muslims hate us anyway, they hate us because we are not Muslim - the same reason they hate Hindus in India, Jews in the Middle East and everywhere, animists in Africa.

And exactly what do you suggests separates the psychotic and violent Muslims from all those great ones you believe exist? Are the violent ones ever excommunicated -- tossed out of Islam?

Are you really suggesting there are different Islams? One for the nutcases and one for the sane? Hate to tell you - but it's one big ideology, they all follow the same book and there is no iman excommunicating anyone no matter what.

You can insist that those like bin Laden are hijacking the religion - but then why isn't he and all the others thrown out? Those in control of the religion don't believe like you - that's why.
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