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The guy's crazy. Someone who stabs someone else is inherently either evil or crazy.
How is that a reflection of anything but the fact that he's crazy and just a bad person? Was the Fort Hood lunatic a reflection of anything but the fact that he was crazy? And if the broader point is that the Fort Hood attacker was in fact reacting to an allegedly deeply racist American society well then shouldn't Muslims equally look inside their hearts and wonder if their own highly bigoted societies aren't equally somehow to blame for his actions?
As for term Islamophobia well are you arguing that people have no right to dislike an ideology? Because that's what Islam ultimately is: an ideology. I can't say I like it all that much.
Irrational hatred is never correct.
Please don't put words in my mouth.
I say what I mean to say and don't need your erroneous interpretation.
The man asked if the driver was muslim, then attacked him. Unprovoked.
I said nothing about any other incident, just this one.
And you know this guy is crazy how? Do you have a psych degree and have you interviewed him?
What a convenient story! If it's true then it's a shame, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a ruse set up by a mosque sympathizer. As someone already pointed out, it's very difficult to stab a cab driver in NYC with the glass window separating the driver from the passenger.
Are you so blinded by your own hatred you will go to any lengths to justify somebody stabbing another indiividual?
Are you so blinded by your own hatred you will go to any lengths to justify somebody stabbing another indiividual?
I'm not blinded by any kind of hate, I just suffer from a healthy dose of cynicism.
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STOP THE PRESSES !
Are we just taking the cabbies word that the man said this ?
That's my point. Anybody can say "I've been a victim of a hate crime", without any proof to back it up, and the race-baiting media will jump on it and report it as fact.
No person can be held accountable for the actions of other persons.
That's not a Muslim argument. That's a fundamental principle of the American justice system. The only exceptions are in the case of guardians who have assumed responsibility for the actions of their charges. What you are arguing is that because they are Muslim, this fundamental principle should not apply to them.
And I'd like to see where Muslims argue that all non-Muslims should be held accountable for the actions of other non-Muslims. Could you find something to support your assertion?
I agree with the bolded.
The problem?
The OP didn't do that. He implied that ALL Americans are somehow to blame for this lunatic. Read it. Don't you see that as a problem?
Because I do.
As for you second assertion do I really have to bring up the words in the Islamic community all the time? The dingbat who is trying to have his mosque in NYC has stated that 9/11 was at least partially America's fault. How is that not holding all non-Muslims accountable for the actions of other non-Muslims?
The constant refrain in the Islamic community is indeed that Muslims have the right to hate non-Muslims because of the actions of other non-Muslims. So if George Bush invaded Iraq well OF COURSE that means that Muslims are justified in hating ALL Americans.
It's a meme in the Islamic world. It's intensely hypocritical and this thread is a demonstration of that fact.
My not arguing that Rush Limbaugh is responsible for this man's action.
My argument is that Rush and those that think like him and spread hateful, bigoted language are responsible for creating a climate of fear, hate, ignornace and bigotry.
Look at the history of this country. When hateful and incendiery language is aimed at group i.e. American Indians, Jewish Americans, or Black Americans it tends at some point to lead to violence.
The American Conservative Movement has created a climate of hatred and bigotry.
I disagree that the American Conservative Movement has created this. People who can't think for themselves and blame others for their actions create this. I may be a conservative but I don't have to support or agree with every "conservative" out there. Last time I checked, I could actually decide for myself as to whether I would agree with someone or not. Just because someone has a radio or talk show or writes articles does not make them someone I idolize. I choose to believe what I want to...not good for the ratings of those guys, but it appears that there are plenty of lemmings out there that have nothing better to do. The degree of hate in this country is embarrassing. Sometimes it seems as though we are taking steps backwards rather than moving forward.
Irrational hatred is never correct.
Please don't put words in my mouth.
I say what I mean to say and don't need your erroneous interpretation.
The man asked if the driver was muslim, then attacked him. Unprovoked.
I said nothing about any other incident, just this one.
And you know this guy is crazy how? Do you have a psych degree and have you interviewed him?
Again, I will ask you. Do you have solid proof that those words were exchanged or do you have only hearsay. Prove your assertion!
If he did, the prosecute the stupid bastard..But until you have solid proof, do not put words in other people mouths..
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I am more like a shrink or Bones, I am not here to judge, I am just interested in cause and effect... 
Sometimes it seems as though we are taking steps backwards rather than moving forward.
