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Calling you lame is the same as you blaming the unemployed for their misfortune. If you have something positive to offer then I am sure many would like to read what you have. Why do I have to PM you for anything? You are obviously very young and immature. I can forgive you for that. I have lived the system for the 40 years I have been in the work force. I find your position provocative and insulting but I would never cry to someone to get me banned from posting with the adults.
I take responsibility for my own actions. If I am struggling, or down on my luck, I take responsibility for that. I have moved 2000 miles by myself just to keep from being unemployed. I never blame external conditions for my own misfortune - I own up to my own problems and do whatever I need to do to fix them. It deeply saddens me that you can't understand that.
I shouldn't have to explain to someone older than me what personal responsibility is, but apparently in this case I do.
if you are willing to be unemployed for that long, take out the loans and go back to school....
You can't be serious. What lenders are going to lend tens of thousands of dollars each to millions of unemployed persons? How old are you 15? And you claim to have knowledge in economics. What a joke.
You can't be serious. What lenders are going to lend tens of thousands of dollars each to millions of unemployed persons? How old are you 15? And you claim to have knowledge in economics. What a joke.
This is what I mean when I tell people that based on what Ive heard from other employed people, most of the employed community are extremely out of touch with reality and the jobs situation...
typically, employed people have their scripted talking points that they prepare for the unemployed in order to rationalize why jobs are virtually non existent for people seeking them...but, logically speaking, even if a lender did grant loans to the unemployed, is it REALLY even wise for a person to take out loans that they have no known nor foreseeable way of paying back, before one even secures a job?...isnt that how this economy fell into shambles in the first place? By making loans to people who cant afford them, and gambling on roi's? it makes no sense to traverse that course again...the whole pull yourself up by your bootstraps spiel tends to sound great and noble on paper but it completely falls apart in practice.
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You can't be serious. What lenders are going to lend tens of thousands of dollars each to millions of unemployed persons? How old are you 15? And you claim to have knowledge in economics. What a joke.
Have you ever applied for loans for school? I have gone through the process for undergrad and grad school. Getting loans (even when unemployed) is VERY easy. In fact, the federal government is one of those lenders who will loan money to the unemployed for school.
At least know the process of something before bashing me for it. Tell me this, would an unemployed person work harder to get a job (put in 15-16 hour days, 6 days per week like one should to find a job) if they had unemployment income or if they did not?
If you can, with a straight face, tell me someone would work that hard to find a job with or without unemployment income, I will apologize. The fact is this, most unemployed people do NOT spend that much time job hunting, and paying them money to be unemployed is doing nothing but reward that laziness.
And when you bash my knowledge of economics, what school of economic theory are you debating from? I am just curious, since you apparently have studied it in detail.
Have you ever applied for loans for school? I have gone through the process for undergrad and grad school. Getting loans (even when unemployed) is VERY easy. In fact, the federal government is one of those lenders who will loan money to the unemployed for school.
At least know the process of something before bashing me for it. Tell me this, would an unemployed person work harder to get a job (put in 15-16 hour days, 6 days per week like one should to find a job) if they had unemployment income or if they did not?
If you can, with a straight face, tell me someone would work that hard to find a job with or without unemployment income, I will apologize. The fact is this, most unemployed people do NOT spend that much time job hunting, and paying them money to be unemployed is doing nothing but reward that laziness.
And when you bash my knowledge of economics, what school of economic theory are you debating from? I am just curious, since you apparently have studied it in detail.
So let's stop bailing out CEO's, they aren't "creating" new jobs! How come you are just going for the unemployed people who WANT good jobs with living wages, why don't we (the govt) confiscate everything from Wall Street that they have "borrowed" from us taxpayers and then we can have job programs similar to the New Deal during the Great Depression?
So let's stop bailing out CEO's, they aren't "creating" new jobs! How come you are just going for the unemployed people who WANT good jobs with living wages, why don't we (the govt) confiscate everything from Wall Street that they have "borrowed" from us taxpayers and then we can have job programs similar to the New Deal during the Great Depression?
I have never supported any of the bailouts. I think UI should be capped at 3 months and I think the government should never bail out any business.
Please don't assume I am only pro-businesses. I want people to own up to their own lives, and that includes CEOs taking the fall for companies they have driven into the ground.
If you think I would work 90 hours a week just for the opportunity to work to make some employer even wealthier off my efforts you should really reconsider that proposition. Working that hard on speculation is absurd. That is just playing in a crooked casino. Better to use the unemployment to ease the transition into self employment doing something you like.
For those of you out there who have been unemployed for over 2 years and are now considered one of the 99 weekers---it is time for us to UNITE and to let our Congress know we have power in our votes!!!
There are several groups of 99 weekers all over the USA, and they are preparing a march on the capitol prior to the mid term elections. The majority of all the 99 weekers (about 95%) are going to be voting a straight Democrat ticket this fall.
We need to show these Republicans and those other people (like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity to name a few) that we are not "ignorant, lazy people" and we WANT to work!!!
These Republicans, on TV and in Congress have called us lazy, idle, not worth their time and most irritating-- our votes don't count!!! As one Republican Senator said "the unemployed don't vote, so why should we worry about them?"
We NEED to show them in Washington that we DO vote and we DO remember the names and slander they have done to us!!! It was Republicans who filibustered the last extension. It was the Republicans who demanded the Tier V be removed from the last bill!!!
WE NEED TO UNITE!!!!
I'd take a well practiced speech over a paragraph trying to rally people to a cause any day...
You have to understand, everything today is done as CHEAPLY and quickly as possible.
Workers aren't cheap, and as America is falling from being the largest power, we need to create more of a manufacturing foundation, that competes with China, without dropping the pay grade to $0.12 per hour...
I'd suggest to politicians we do what the Romans did, create jobs by buildings and roads, or anything like that, BUT we've got absolutely no money.
If you think I would work 90 hours a week just for the opportunity to work to make some employer even wealthier off my efforts you should really reconsider that proposition. Working that hard on speculation is absurd. That is just playing in a crooked casino. Better to use the unemployment to ease the transition into self employment doing something you like.
Working that hard is what makes a person wealthy.
Are you REALLY ok not taking care of yourself? Are you seriously fine living off of the tax money that people who DO work 90 hour weeks pay?
Ok "some" of these persons want jobs. However, ALOT do NOT. They have become accustomed too and have adapted too the life style of free money. And like it or not: For THEM it is free. They aren't working and never will; again, not all, some. 10 yrs from now, someone like the OP will be asking you, and me, to extend their benefits, because they still cannot find a job. The economy will be fine and everything will be good; they still won't work. Why? They don't have too. You will pay them.
They get: Free money every week. Free health care. Free housing. Free food and free whatever. Why? Because the poor unfortunate souls can't get a job.
Its total BS. They can get a job, if they look. Like I said, not a Burger King or McDonald's I have seen isn't hiring. However, that is beneath them; so they take tax dollars away from you and me.
What ? The unemployed get what ?? --
Free health care . NO
Free Housing . NO
Free Food . NO
Free whatever - NO.
Wake up! How about NO health insurance . <--------Reality
How about paying your own housing .<-----Reality
How about buying your own groceries <-----Reality
How about paying for everything because NOTHING is free.
What exactly do you come up with your own interpretations of how the unemployed REALLY live ?
Yes , there are those who could get food stamps but the criteria for that is pretty lean .
Yes , some may go to food banks but most people won't go unless through sheer desperation.
Your average normal American who is unemployed right now wont take any of the above unless its critical .
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