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Old 09-17-2010, 10:48 AM
 
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Gawd you all are taking such a great TV series that had good thoughts on social and philosophical issues plus cool action and diminishing it to a liberal vs conservative thing.
Star Trek WAS a liberal thing

Trekdom - Star Trek Fanzine: Star Trek as Liberal; Star Wars as Conservative
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:48 AM
 
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Liberals don't use (exploit) emotion or bias? lol lol LOL!!!!!!!

Your post itself has bias "goat herders" .What you are really saying is that anybody religious is stupid.
Yes Jesus. You have after all claimed to be Jesus himself in other forums on this board. Or was that some other lionking?
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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Gawd you all are taking such a great TV series that had good thoughts on social and philosophical issues plus cool action and diminishing it to a liberal vs conservative thing.

I will now guess that conservatives will no longer watch ST because many of the characters are liberals. Becasue you know, anytime Hollywood does anything liberal they say they will boycott.

Maybe if they get enough signatures on a petition, they can get it pulled off the air for indoctrinating liberal ideas.
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:52 AM
 
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Yes Jesus. You have after all claimed to be Jesus himself in other forums on this board. Or was that some other lionking?

Not I. But I do look like him somewhat
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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Conservative would be spock. He made logic based decisions, whereas liberals make emotion based decisions.

liberal: I have no idea.. If you think about it, the entire star trek universe is a socialist utopia. They don't even use money..
Weren't there Klingons or Romulans, whose whole society was hard right, dependent on force, or threat to use force?

Didn't trust each other, let alone outsiders?

What would they have done to Spock if they had successfully vulcan-napped him?

I think Bones and Scotty would have been best at adapting to a kidnapping into a culture of force and threat.
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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Spock bases his logic on science, that makes him a progressive liberal.

spock based his logic on REAL science, not made up science to fit and agenda...spock would be more of a conservative, with a liberal leaning
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:58 AM
 
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And I love the series , all of the series. However touching on the human condition and social issues is not always a liberal thing. Liberal or conservative neither one is always right or wrong.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:01 AM
 
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spock based his logic on REAL science, not made up science to fit and agenda...spock would be more of a conservative, with a liberal leaning
Science IS inherently real
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:02 AM
 
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Kirk was definitely a conservative. You don't become the captain of a star ship if you make emotional decisions. Everyting was "black and white" until he was provided more information.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Conservative would be spock. He made logic based decisions, whereas liberals make emotion based decisions.

liberal: I have no idea.. I fyou t hink about it, the entire star trek universe is a socialist utopia. They don't even use money..


The world of Star Trek was one where technology had abolished space, time and scarcity. The transporter could send its crew anywhere within a few thousand miles, The great ships used physics and techniques to tap the vast energies needed to warp space and time and produce matter from the vacuum
A variant of the transporter called a replicator was a Turing machine that produced all the material needs of the crew. The star ships had weapons to devastae whole cities and planets. Medicine was similarly advanced. In the world of Star Trek the market was pointless and the could organize things on the basis of each according to his talents to each according to his needs. Does that last observation ring a bell? iT SHOULD. It is the dream world anticipated by a political economist in the halls of the great Library in London England circa 1850. The labels of conservative and liberal are as meaningless as the concept of capital and wealth in a true COMMUNIST world like that of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek.

Just think one always thought James Tiberias Kirk was a good American farm boy from 22nd century Iowa and not some Red.
One always knew Jean Luc Piccard was a European so being a communist was no big strech.
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