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This is on par with the liberal mindset, that we work for the government, all our hard earned money is government's, and government should decide how much money they need first, then we can have what is left over.
"The UK's tax collection agency is putting forth a proposal that all employers send employee paychecks to the government, after which the government would deduct what it deems as the appropriate tax and pay the employees by bank transfer."
UK Proposes All Paychecks Go to the State First (http://www.cnbc.com/id/39265847 - broken link)
Sorry, wrong again. This liberal liked getting paid.
How you wish to define the ideology of people who would agree to this proposal is not really important, the point is that there are a small but active group of progressive politicians who would love to make it law, and some voters will see no problem with it.
Maybe the progressives have not dumbed us down far enough, so that enough people are acceptable to the concept that government is all powerful, and already owns all the money we earn. This may just be a balloon, floated by to see just how far Marxism has progressed in the mindset of the average UK citizen.
Free food, free shelter/housing, free medical care...and you got paid. If you wanted to pay for your food or housing, then that was your prerogative and some got extra money for that. ComRats/BAQ, depending on paygrade.
Even I, one of the resident liberals, do not think this is a good idea. In fact I think it is a very dumb idea proposed by complete control freak that believes that computers actually will do what you want them to instead of what they are told to do.
As far as military pay is concerned, when I was in the Navy the pay was infinitesimal. They made up for it with room, board and transport in return for a 24 hour work day. The neat part was they gave me a shotgun, unlimited ammunition and lots of interesting foreigners to play with.
In 1999, I was approached by a recruiter about going back in. They showed me what my base pay would have been, and it was more than I was already making as an assistant store manager, plus I wouldn't have to pay for rent or food.
But they decided I was too old to get waivered to get back in.
you are wasting my time asking the question. We already know people in government like the idea, because I have a link to an article about a proposition from a UK government agency proposing this idea. There are people in this thread who have commented that it would be no big deal to them if it were actually implemented. Why would you even doubt me, have you not read thru this thread?
Start a thread about this in democraticunderground.com or dailykos.com, or some other bastion of liberalism. Don't ask if they think the proposal could be implemented or not, just start the thread and see what they think of the idea.
you are wasting my time asking the question. We already know people in government like the idea, because I have a link to an article about a proposition from a UK government agency proposing this idea. There are people in this thread who have commented that it would be no big deal to them if it were actually implemented. Why would you even doubt me, have you not read thru this thread?
Start a thread about this in democraticunderground.com or dailykos.com, or some other bastion of liberalism. Don't ask if they think the proposal could be implemented or not, just start the thread and see what they think of the idea.
There isn't a single UK politician quoted in that article and you are clearly ignorant of UK politics which is why you cannot name them. This thread has no value because there is no-one contributing to it, except me , with any idea of British politics or how things are done there.
This story was broken by the British satirical magazine Private Eye a couple for weeks ago. It was picked up by the tabloids and distorted a little. In reality, it was an idea floated by the contractors who were responsible for the most recent computer foul-up at HMRC and who were looking for ways to keep the gravy-train running. That is why the article does not even quote an official at HMRC ... because this is not an HMRC idea or position.
Read the article. Not one politician is quoted or named and not one HMRC official.
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