Question About The Constitution (Brown, education, v, prison)

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

This is the only problem with understanding the Constitution or constitutional law, when people go so off the deep end as to make any sort of sane discussion pointless.

The draft = slavery :smack

2 years of military service, with pay and benefits now that's some kind of slavery.

How is that different from today's prison system?

Ya get pay and benefits in prison, too!

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by ergohead

How is that different from today's prison system?

Ya get pay and benefits in prison, too!

The door swung open, and in walked a fig newton.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

So, you who hasn't gone to law school, passed no bar exam knows more about law than I do. Okay. sure buddy. Whatever you say.....

Oh, puleeeze! The self-proclaimed internet vitas complete with J.D and admittance to some imaginary bar.

Dude, there are lawyers on these forums and when you read their first paragraph, even when you don't agree with them, their is bona fides are painfully obvious. You are definitely not one of those people.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

The door swung open, and in walked a fig newton.

Why do you find the need to insult fig newtons?

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by ergohead

How is that different from today's prison system?

Ya get pay and benefits in prison, too!

Are we to assume that your argument is that prisoners are slaves?

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

The door swung open, and in walked a fig newton.

I'll take the newton, you can stick the fig.

[betamanlet]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

I think this thread alone (let alone the others where we have crossed swords) establishes that very fact.

Since you know so much, and I'm a fake lawyer, when is one entitled to a civil trial jury in the federal system? It's in the bill of rights. Please tell me the entire law on this issue since you know so much, and I know so little.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

Are we to assume that your argument is that prisoners are slaves?

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[betamanlet]

Here's a hint, since you are such legal scholars, and I'm not, what does this actually mean?

7th Amendment

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

[betamanlet]

well? you won't find the full answer on google. So why not venture a guess? This is a discussion about the US constitution. I have been accused to not knowing anything about law, despite having graduated law school, having taken Constitutional law for an entire year, and passing a bar exam.