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Old 09-23-2010, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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They can project their military power farther than you think.

Recently, the Saudi's war-gamed a temporary shut-down of their air defense system which lasted for about 30 minutes. According to "sources," it was a practice run for allowing the IDF to overfly Saudi territory on their way to Iran without having any of them accidently shot down by aggressive or half-asleep Saudi gunners.

The House of Saud has no great love for the Mullah's in Tehran because they're afraid of them. Of course, they can't officially allow the IDF to use their air space to attack a Muslim country (after all, they ARE the keepers of Mecca!), but things happen when no one is "looking."

Additionally, about a year ago, Cyprus allowed the Israeli's to conduct war games of their own on a piece of territory which closely resembles the Iranian nuclear sites.

We won't even get into the Israeli presence in places as far apart as Iraq, the Horn of Africa, South Africa, South America or the far east.

Make no mistake...it's coming and the war-making policies of G.W. Bush and Donald Rumsfelf made it inevitable.
It is going to take more than a few aerial attacks to ruin Iran's nuclear programs. They learned from Iraq and most of the program is not single strike exposed above ground. It would take several days of continuous sorties and probably ground troops to reach and destroy it. It is not a 30 minute fly by bombing job. Israel does not have the military capacity to pull that kind of operation off that far away.
And Saudi could say "we weren't looking" for 30 minutes but not for days and days of continued sorties by the IDF. If they allowed that to happen, who do you think Iran is going after when it stops? And if the attacks failed and Iran goes nuclear, they are going to remember the Saudis allowing them to be bombed. Do you think the Saudis want that kind of trouble?
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I agree with the first part about Israel's arm. Simply put it has a global reach. However their decisions to exercise their military might goes well before President Bush and Donald Rumsfeld. Israel has been in the "war" business and independently taking action since the mid 50's and they have never required US permissions. Most recently examples would be Lebanon.

Independently of the US? LOL That's a hoot!

Did you not notice the strategic and tactical errors they made in Lebanon which, by the way, allows Hizbollah to legitimately claim they are the first Arab force to defeat the IDF?

They mimicked our own, nearly identical errors in Iraq.

What does that tell you?
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It is going to take more than a few aerial attacks to ruin Iran's nuclear programs. They learned from Iraq and most of the program is not single strike exposed above ground. It would take several days of continuous sorties and probably ground troops to reach and destroy it. It is not a 30 minute fly by bombing job. Israel does not have the military capacity to pull that kind of operation off that far away.
And Saudi could say "we weren't looking" for 30 minutes but not for days and days of continued sorties by the IDF. If they allowed that to happen, who do you think Iran is going after when it stops? And if the attacks failed and Iran goes nuclear, they are going to remember the Saudis allowing them to be bombed. Do you think the Saudis want that kind of trouble?
Have you not considered the possibility of bunker-busting, ground-penetrating tactical nukes?
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:34 PM
 
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I would love to see both blown to bits

But I admit I would love to see Israel blown up more.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I would love to see both blown to bits

But I admit I would love to see Israel blown up more.
As long as we are not involved, I don't care.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Have you not considered the possibility of bunker-busting, ground-penetrating tactical nukes?
No because not even Israel is that stupid. Nuke another country that has not attacked them? nawww
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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No because not even Israel is that stupid. Nuke another country that has not attacked them? nawww
Dream on. Do you know what "The Samson Option" is?

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Old 09-23-2010, 09:42 PM
 
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As long as we are not involved, I don't care.
Even if are involved, I don't care.

We are already involved with both.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Even if are involved, I don't care.

We are already involved with both.
Then we need to get "uninvolved" with both of them.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:51 PM
 
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Then we need to get "uninvolved" with both of them.
When willl get uninvolved.

Once they both are blown up that is...
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