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Old 09-25-2010, 05:13 AM
 
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They have no intention of repealing it. Because they threw a knip**** and their glorious little insurance companies that they pushed to make a profit are still in there.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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They have no intention of repealing it. Because they threw a knip**** and their glorious little insurance companies that they pushed to make a profit are still in there.
The Ins are indeed the primary source of paying for care, that is absolutely true. They will, however, starting in 2014 be constrained as to just how much profit and overhead they will be allowed and their more egregious practices will be curtailed. That started this month.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Until 2014, the Ins Cos will try to maximize profit as much as possible. That effort could very well lead to a Public Option by 2014. So, I think letting to Ins Cos rip people off until then, may actually turn out good in the long run.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:58 AM
 
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the dems are never bold enough. They should have forced the public option down the right wing's throat, just like the 2 wars were forced down the left wing's throat.

I'm betting if there was a public option the dems base would be very enthusiastic.

I still don't understand why a 3rd party should profit from my health being neglected and my possible death.
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:50 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Has anyone here, actually researched to see how and when we got for profit health insurance companies?


What was it? Blue Shield or something like that. The predecessor to Blue Cross.

It was non-profit. Was it Nixon that had a grand scheme, to bring them on as a money maker for the government?
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:03 AM
 
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Is Obamacare going to fix that?
Actually a single payer healthcare system would have significantly reduced administrative cost. The health insurance lobby with the help of the Republican Party, and an uneducated electorate made sure that did not happen.
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:15 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Actually a single payer healthcare system would have significantly reduced administrative cost. The health insurance lobby with the help of the Republican Party, and an uneducated electorate made sure that did not happen.
It would have also significantly reduced quality of care. As it is, quality of care and patient-doctor relationships will be negatively affected. Do you think the government, inserting itself between patient and doctor, will be concerned with how you feel about having your care regulated and restricted according to some formula they come up with (that will not have your welfare in mind). Let's see how you like being just a number.

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I can't believe it myself. It just goes to show how the lunatic fringe of the Democrats grossly miscalculated the American people. I think now Democrats realize that Americans are not as liberal as they think we are, and that we won't stand our country turning into Eurotrash. The liberals on CD can have their moment for now. They will be wiped out of the polls in November and then they'll be crying and whining that they want to escape to Canada (oh how I only wish)
They will see that the American public cannot be manipulated as they thought.
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They have no intention of repealing it. Because they threw a knip**** and their glorious little insurance companies that they pushed to make a profit are still in there.
Not a traditional repeal, but if the GOP gets control of the House, they can deny funding to the more than 150 NEW departments and hiring of 15000 IRS agents.

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The Ins are indeed the primary source of paying for care, that is absolutely true. They will, however, starting in 2014 be constrained as to just how much profit and overhead they will be allowed and their more egregious practices will be curtailed. That started this month.
You DO know that price controls don't work...right? Just look at the tens of TRILLIONS in liabilities from Medicare.

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Actually a single payer healthcare system would have significantly reduced administrative cost. The health insurance lobby with the help of the Republican Party, and an uneducated electorate made sure that did not happen.
Imagine that! The American people DON'T want the federal government in charge of their health care! What could possibly be the reason for that, I mean, there are SO many programs the feds run so well, aren't there?
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Houston
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It would have also significantly reduced quality of care. As it is, quality of care and patient-doctor relationships will be negatively affected. Do you think the government, inserting itself between patient and doctor, will be concerned with how you feel about having your care regulated and restricted according to some formula they come up with (that will not have your welfare in mind). Let's see how you like being just a number.

Yeah I'd much rather trust a giant insurance corporation whose only motive is profit with my healthcare choices. If you can't trust the government or for profit companies to run healthcare then who can? I believe the problems with healthcare in the US started when the insurance companies stuck their noses in it.
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Old 09-25-2010, 07:54 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Yeah I'd much rather trust a giant insurance corporation whose only motive is profit with my healthcare choices. If you can't trust the government or for profit companies to run healthcare then who can? I believe the problems with healthcare in the US started when the insurance companies stuck their noses in it.
And, what is the government's motive?

I forgot...they're here to help us.
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