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Let us review the rules for starting a thread such as this:
First, state some implausible or simply idiotic proposition, such as ‘The World is Flat’.
Second, challenge a stereotypical group to challenge you on your implausible or idiotic proposition.
Third, make a sweeping generalization about said group or a perceived individual member of said group.
Finally, chuckle at your imagined superiority over the stereotypical group.
We must remember, however, that it is difficult, if not impossible, to argue with an implausible or simply idiotic proposition. A person who makes idiotic propositions simply cannot be reasoned with. A person could well write back “But it is scientifically proven that the world is not flat, but a sphere slightly flattened at the poles”. The original poster will, of course, accuse you of being a stereotypical group afraid of facing facts.
Whether it's all the same outcome, the means does make a difference. Burning books has a specific connotation that pulping books does not have. And we all know that.
Makes no difference what so ever. Obama and his administration condemned the potential legal free speech act of burning books by an American citizen. Then it flips around and does the exact same thing. The connotation is books were destroyed by the government because they didn't agree with the content. That is the only connotation that counts and YOU know that because you have railed against the same thing time and time again. Whats the whole point of this thread is Obama's socialist hypocrisy and destructive policies. You can try and minimize the Liberals pain over this action all you want. It does not change the fact that the ONE Bastion of Liberals Freedom Cry since the sixties has been don't let an oppressive government destroy freedom of speech and control the social dialogue. I think Obama can be like Reggie Bush now and give back his award, the Nobel Peace. What a joke. The Noble Peace prize for hypocrisy would be better served with the President. So much for the era of transparency.
Makes no difference what so ever. Obama and his administration condemned the potential legal free speech act of burning books by an American citizen. Then it flips around and does the exact same thing. The connotation is books were destroyed by the government because they didn't agree with the content. That is the only connotation that counts and YOU know that because you have railed against the same thing time and time again. Whats the whole point of this thread is Obama's socialist hypocrisy and destructive policies. You can try and minimize the Liberals pain over this action all you want. It does not change the fact that the ONE Bastion of Liberals Freedom Cry since the sixties has been don't let an oppressive government destroy freedom of speech and control the social dialogue. I think Obama can be like Reggie Bush now and give back his award, the Nobel Peace. What a joke. The Noble Peace prize for hypocrisy would be better served with the President. So much for the era of transparency.
The connotation you want to make is that books were destroyed by the government because they didn't agree with the content. But you cannot refute that given the topic and the author's experience, that national security issues were at play. Nor can you refute that a second printing is currently in the works with some mutually agreed dedactions. Which would rebut your claim that the books were destroyed because the government didn't agree with the content. If the government were blocking the second printing run, you might have a case, but since it isn't, this is a completely different issue than book burning.
The Pentagon has burned 9,500 copies of Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer's memoir "Operation Dark Heart," his book about going undercover in Afghanistan.
I guess its ok to burn books as long as its not the Qur'an. Any of you liberal patriots want to step up and say your president OBAMA is Hitler reincarnate? Well' sickofNY or mike from back east. Any takers?
Waiting for a link that says Obama even knew about this, thanks.
Rrrr, I tried to cut and paste from the .pdf of the letter but it wont let me. Not sure why you all don't mind publishing classified and 'TOP SECRET' information all of a sudden. Why is that?
The Fox article says, way down at the bottom,
"The DOD says Shaffer and the book’s publisher ‘voluntarily agreed’ [Fox's quotes ]to remove what it deemed to be classified information prior to the book’s first printing.
"'Given the sensitive nature of this request and the potential damage to national security, the Department of Defense had every reason to believe that this would be handled with the utmost discretion by all of the parties. Unfortunately, someone disclosed to the press these ongoing efforts before the Department of Defense had the opportunity to finish working with the publisher on a corrected version,' a DOD official told Fox News.
"The DOD is currently working with the publisher to ‘mitigate the resulting effects of the disclosures,’ the official said."
I dont have a problem with classified information NOT being spread around. Weird that you want it to be.
The connotation you want to make is that books were destroyed by the government because they didn't agree with the content. But you cannot refute that given the topic and the author's experience, that national security issues were at play. Nor can you refute that a second printing is currently in the works with some mutually agreed dedactions. Which would rebut your claim that the books were destroyed because the government didn't agree with the content. If the government were blocking the second printing run, you might have a case, but since it isn't, this is a completely different issue than book burning.
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Originally Posted by delusianne
Waiting for a link that says Obama even knew about this, thanks.
Rrrr, I tried to cut and paste from the .pdf of the letter but it wont let me. Not sure why you all don't mind publishing classified and 'TOP SECRET' information all of a sudden. Why is that?
The Fox article says, way down at the bottom,
"The DOD says Shaffer and the book’s publisher ‘voluntarily agreed’ [Fox's quotes ]to remove what it deemed to be classified information prior to the book’s first printing.
"'Given the sensitive nature of this request and the potential damage to national security, the Department of Defense had every reason to believe that this would be handled with the utmost discretion by all of the parties. Unfortunately, someone disclosed to the press these ongoing efforts before the Department of Defense had the opportunity to finish working with the publisher on a corrected version,' a DOD official told Fox News.
"The DOD is currently working with the publisher to ‘mitigate the resulting effects of the disclosures,’ the official said."
I dont have a problem with classified information NOT being spread around. Weird that you want it to be.
So all of a sudden you two are righteously concerned with the government destroying books for the protection of National Security. Which they could not even do correctly. Now that is weird. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.
So all of a sudden you two are righteously concerned with the government destroying books for the protection of National Security. Which they could not even do correctly. Now that is weird. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.
I don't know where you find hypocrisy. Why wouldn't any American be concerned with National Security? We are currently fighting a war in Afghanistan, aren't we? This book is about clandestine operations in Afghanistan? So American assets could be threatened by the release of sensitive information in a book published for national and international audiences?
Unless either of us ever said national security should not be a consideration, I don't follow your hypocrisy argument. Unless your just name-calling because you don't have an adequate argument to make. Kinda like nananananananan-ing on the playground?
Makes no difference what so ever. Obama and his administration condemned the potential legal free speech act of burning books by an American citizen. Then it flips around and does the exact same thing. The connotation is books were destroyed by the government because they didn't agree with the content. That is the only connotation that counts and YOU know that because you have railed against the same thing time and time again. Whats the whole point of this thread is Obama's socialist hypocrisy and destructive policies. You can try and minimize the Liberals pain over this action all you want. It does not change the fact that the ONE Bastion of Liberals Freedom Cry since the sixties has been don't let an oppressive government destroy freedom of speech and control the social dialogue. I think Obama can be like Reggie Bush now and give back his award, the Nobel Peace. What a joke. The Noble Peace prize for hypocrisy would be better served with the President. So much for the era of transparency.
So you would have preferred to endanger our troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan just to make a thousand yard stretch point between burning Quarans and releasing sensitive information dangerous to our troops. Are you really that calloused and devoutly partisan?
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Whether it's all the same outcome, the means does make a difference. Burning books has a specific connotation that pulping books does not have. And we all know that.
That is interesting.
The article I read said burned, not pulped.
Go figure.
Thanks for the clarification.
This thread is just plain hilarious. Destroying copies of a book in the interests of National Security now somehow equates to Pastor Jed Clampett burning the Q'uran because Mooslims are evil. Wonders never cease.
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]to remove what it deemed to be classified information prior to the book’s first printing. 
