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Old 10-07-2010, 07:16 PM
 
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Until someone gets a REAL clue, the amount of benefits our wonderful government gives out will continue for years. I didn't need an article to inform me of that.

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Walmart is collaborating with vendors to offer even smaller sizes for under a dollar to win back customers who are heading to dollar stores to buy mini-size laundry soap and other items because they only have a few dollars left until the next payment. Earlier this year, Kmart began pushing $1 items on snack packs and other food items, timed a week before the 15th of each month to help customers stretch their budgets.
"This is the new normal," said Richard Hastings, macro and consumer strategist with Global Hunter Securities. "This is going to be like this for many years to come."
Fraud of benefits, a subject that is so very exhausted here, is such a lame argument considering the 'state' of America. Obama's a bust. Millions out of work. A higher number of millions on welfare. Approval ratings, all over the board, are dropping. There is a reason for this occurrence and, my friends, it isn't welfare. Only someone that wished to see millions of people starve to death would still be degrading welfare recipients. There's more NEED than FRAUD at this point.

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Americans relying on government benefits are doing their homework to stretch the payments. The vast majority interviewed by The Associated Press as October dawned last week were carefully scrutinizing prices and had a game plan of what to buy where.
Aldis and the dollar store, most the way. Wal-Mart for a few extras. (Including insulin for our Dog) Once or twice every three months we spend $5 to rent 5 movies for 5 days. That's a splurge.

I'm sure I speak for many when I say... "I'd rather be working".

What happened to that great plan Obama?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101006/ap_on_bi_ge/us_midnight_run (broken link)

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Old 10-07-2010, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Until someone gets a REAL clue, the amount of benefits our wonderful government gives out will continue for years. I didn't need an article to inform me of that.

Fraud of benefits, a subject that is so very exhausted here, is such a lame argument considering the 'state' of America. Obama's a bust. Millions out of work. A higher number of millions on welfare. Approval ratings, all over the board, are dropping. There is a reason for this occurrence and, my friends, it isn't welfare. Only someone that wished to see millions of people starve to death would still be degrading welfare recipients. There's more NEED than FRAUD at this point.

Aldis and the dollar store, most the way. Wal-Mart for a few extras. (Including insulin for our Dog) Once or twice every three months we spend $5 to rent 5 movies for 5 days. That's a splurge.

I'm sure I speak for many when I say... "I'd rather be working".

What happened to that great plan Obama?

Midnight grocery runs capture economic desperation - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101006/ap_on_bi_ge/us_midnight_run - broken link)

Uh, the reason so many people aren't working is because successive administrations, from Ronald Reagan to G.W. Bush, allowed our jobs to go overseas without any effort to stop the hemorrhage. Their corporate sugar daddies wanted the extra profit, you see.

Obama can't correct that overnight. In fact, with the Republican's holding up bills which would seek to correct the off-shoring of our livelihoods (which they just did....again), he'll never be able to bring back the jobs which were lost to corporate greed.

But, it's all his fault anyhow, right?
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Uh, the reason so many people aren't working is because successive administrations, from Ronald Reagan to G.W. Bush, allowed our jobs to go overseas without any effort to stop the hemorrhage. Their corporate sugar daddies wanted the extra profit, you see.

Obama can't correct that overnight. In fact, with the Republican's holding up bills which would seek to correct the off-shoring of our livelihoods (which they just did....again), he'll never be able to bring back the jobs which were lost to corporate greed.

But, it's all his fault anyhow, right?
That bill won't stop offshoring. Companies, even with credits removed, still will make more profit with offshored products and services.
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I keep seeing this midnite grocery shopping on foodstamps repeated over and over again.
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Uh, the reason so many people aren't working is because successive administrations, from Ronald Reagan to G.W. Bush, allowed our jobs to go overseas without any effort to stop the hemorrhage.
Actually, it was NAFTA, the follow-up to GAAT, that was the culprit and it had the support of BOTH parties. NAFTA was enacted in 1994 when the good ol' boy, Clinton, was president as an "agreement", not a treaty with other countries, and was thus able to bypass the constitutionally mandated vote in the Senate.
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:42 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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Uh, the reason so many people aren't working is because successive administrations, from Ronald Reagan to G.W. Bush, allowed our jobs to go overseas without any effort to stop the hemorrhage. Their corporate sugar daddies wanted the extra profit, you see.

Obama can't correct that overnight. In fact, with the Republican's holding up bills which would seek to correct the off-shoring of our livelihoods (which they just did....again), he'll never be able to bring back the jobs which were lost to corporate greed.

But, it's all his fault anyhow, right?
I believe that Obama thought he could do everything he said he would.
I voted for Obama. It was Clinton who created NAFTA.
I believe Obama along with other presidents were naive to believe they could bring major change. The job is so much more than what we think it is.
They find that out when they get into office....ever notice how quickly presidents seem to age?
Both parties are covered in the corruption ooze that banks & big business use to buy the power to run this country. That and now all the other contributors from outside the US.
I now think that both major parties are bought & sold.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:23 PM
 
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Uh, the reason so many people aren't working is because successive administrations, from Ronald Reagan to G.W. Bush, allowed our jobs to go overseas without any effort to stop the hemorrhage. Their corporate sugar daddies wanted the extra profit, you see.

Obama can't correct that overnight. In fact, with the Republican's holding up bills which would seek to correct the off-shoring of our livelihoods (which they just did....again), he'll never be able to bring back the jobs which were lost to corporate greed.

But, it's all his fault anyhow, right?
excessive regulations and high corporate taxes are the reason jobs keep leaving the country. the bill of which you speak will do nothing to stop the outsourcing, as all the new taxes and regulations coming online from the health care reform law and the financial reform law, will only contribute to job losses in this country. if we are going to get serious about getting manufacturing jobs back in this country, then we need to eliminate the excessive and often times contradictory regulations, take power away from the corrupt union bosses, install real health care and financial reform, and make the business environment more friendly. we need to let private enterprise do what they do best, make money. when that happens, the consumer spending will increase, and jobs will be created, and not temporary government jobs, but real long term decent paying positions.

as for nafta, that deal was pushed through by the bush 41 administration, and i believe that it did in fact go through the senate, and clinton signed the treaty.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:01 PM
 
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Uh, the reason so many people aren't working is because successive administrations, from Ronald Reagan to G.W. Bush, allowed our jobs to go overseas without any effort to stop the hemorrhage. Their corporate sugar daddies wanted the extra profit, you see.

Obama can't correct that overnight. In fact, with the Republican's holding up bills which would seek to correct the off-shoring of our livelihoods (which they just did....again), he'll never be able to bring back the jobs which were lost to corporate greed.

But, it's all his fault anyhow, right?
Right, look only at the surface and not at the 2nd heaviest corporate tax rate tax rate in the West nor at the onerous environmental and safety manufacturing regulations that do not exist overseas.

Corporations are beholding to the stockholders to make money. Pave a way for them to make similar returns in the US and they will return. Teach the American consumer not to patronize stores that import 90% of their stock and they will go out of business or change their business model.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:08 PM
 
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factcheck.org

As we have written before, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office released a report in August that said the stimulus bill has "[l]owered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.8 percentage points" and "[i]ncreased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million."
Simply put, more people would be unemployed if not for the stimulus bill. The exact number of jobs created and saved is difficult to estimate, but nonpartisan economists say there’s no doubt that the number is positive.


Of course, would it not have been for the GOP and a handful of blue dog dems....the stimulus would have been larger, and would have contained more job creating infrastructure spending rather than less effective tax cuts.

Right wingers not knowing any facts (as usual) start these threads complaining about Obama when the blame lies squarely with the GOP allied with a few bad Democrats.

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Old 10-07-2010, 10:36 PM
 
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As we have written before, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office released a report in August that said the stimulus bill has "[l]owered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.8 percentage points" and "[i]ncreased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million."
Simply put, more people would be unemployed if not for the stimulus bill. The exact number of jobs created and saved is difficult to estimate, but nonpartisan economists say there’s no doubt that the number is positive.

Of course, would it not have been for the GOP and a handful of blue dog dems....the stimulus would have been larger, and would have contained more job creating infrastructure spending rather than less effective tax cuts.

Right wingers not knowing any facts (as usual) start these threads complaining about Obama when the blame lies squarely with the GOP allied with a few bad Democrats.
And quadrupling the debt during his 19 mos. in office has done what to the US dollar? Hint: it ain't looking good
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