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Old 10-24-2010, 09:04 PM
 
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Unemployment is already very bad. Imagine how much worse it would be if the benefits had been cut.
Hawkeye> you can say the word 'opportunity' & claim it is there but, the numbers just don't agree.
Saying "oh well that's life" does not make the problem go away, it just screams
I got me mine! So the heck with the rest of you.

I am curious as the divide between the uber rich & the poor continues to rapidly grow, just how long it will take for people to wake up & what they will do.
I doubt they count the homeless created by this mess as unemployed...
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:27 AM
 
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Here's what the Republican party has in store for everybody...

Republican Jobs Plan: Bigger Tax Cuts For The Rich

"The tax cuts they want to give, as usual under Republican policies, will give 62 percent of the tax cuts to the top 1 percent of Americans," Hoyer said.

"Or said another way, an average $467 tax cut to working Americans in the middle of the income levels, and to the top 1 percent earners, an average of $157,000 tax cut...

and to Goldman Sachs, $2.6 billion in tax cuts. When you analyze that, you know what is happening is...

the same old Bush policies of advantaging the wealthy at the expense of the middle income working people and tax cuts which did not, as they were advertised to, grow the economy and grow jobs. In fact, they did just the opposite."

Michael Linden, associate director for tax and budget policy at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, said the Republican proposal is "unaffordable on a level we've never seen before."

"This is almost five times bigger than Bush tax cuts were," Linden said. "It really represents a doubling down on Bush's economic agenda. Where he skewed his tax policy heavily to the rich, this would skew it even further even to the exclusion of the middle class.

"$7 trillion in additional debt and deficit over next ten years would be calamitous," Linden added. "I think it's hard to understate the radicalism of this plan."
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:00 AM
 
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Cut government spending on what?...

Markedly cut which entitlements?...

Cut taxes for whom?...

Term limits?... If you cut term limits you would see widespread curruption...
1. What spending?

ALL federal spending. Link proportionate current spending to 75% of revenues in the previous year. Everyone will have to take a cut after the Obama spending spree.

2. Which entitlements?

a. medicare
b. social security
c. medicare
d. Obamacare
e. federal pensions

3. Tax cuts for whom?

a. everyone who actually pays taxes

4. Term limits-

The opposite is true. Corruption occurs from being in office too long. You have things (as usual) exactly wrong.
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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14. Term limits-

The opposite is true. Corruption occurs from being in office too long. You have things (as usual) exactly wrong.
That's exactly waht I said... read it again...

Term limits?... If you cut term limits you would see widespread curruption...
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by sindey View Post
Unemployment is already very bad. Imagine how much worse it would be if the benefits had been cut.
Hawkeye> you can say the word 'opportunity' & claim it is there but, the numbers just don't agree.
Saying "oh well that's life" does not make the problem go away, it just screams
I got me mine! So the heck with the rest of you.

I am curious as the divide between the uber rich & the poor continues to rapidly grow, just how long it will take for people to wake up & what they will do.
unemployment wouldnt be an issue if the current business environment were more business friendly.

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Originally Posted by HC475 View Post
Here's what the Republican party has in store for everybody...

Republican Jobs Plan: Bigger Tax Cuts For The Rich

"The tax cuts they want to give, as usual under Republican policies, will give 62 percent of the tax cuts to the top 1 percent of Americans," Hoyer said.

"Or said another way, an average $467 tax cut to working Americans in the middle of the income levels, and to the top 1 percent earners, an average of $157,000 tax cut...

and to Goldman Sachs, $2.6 billion in tax cuts. When you analyze that, you know what is happening is...

the same old Bush policies of advantaging the wealthy at the expense of the middle income working people and tax cuts which did not, as they were advertised to, grow the economy and grow jobs. In fact, they did just the opposite."

Michael Linden, associate director for tax and budget policy at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, said the Republican proposal is "unaffordable on a level we've never seen before."

"This is almost five times bigger than Bush tax cuts were," Linden said. "It really represents a doubling down on Bush's economic agenda. Where he skewed his tax policy heavily to the rich, this would skew it even further even to the exclusion of the middle class.

"$7 trillion in additional debt and deficit over next ten years would be calamitous," Linden added. "I think it's hard to understate the radicalism of this plan."
you keep posting the same garbage that has been debunked.

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That's exactly waht I said... read it again...

Term limits?... If you cut term limits you would see widespread curruption...
there are NO term limits on congress, only the president.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:03 AM
 
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unemployment wouldnt be an issue if the current business environment were more business friendly.



you keep posting the same garbage that has been debunked.


Debunked... LOL... You can't debunk fact...
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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Debunked... LOL... You can't debunk fact...
except that you keep posting democrat fiction.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:21 AM
 
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except that you keep posting democrat fiction.
So you're saying a bill proposed by Republicans is fiction?...
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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So you're saying a bill proposed by Republicans is fiction?...
do you have a link to the bill itself? and not some crap from the huffington post either, i want to see the bill itself.
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:06 AM
 
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do you have a link to the bill itself? and not some crap from the huffington post either, i want to see the bill itself.
Here it is... Read it and weep as the Republican Party tries to steal your house... What a joke...

H. R. 5029 - The Economic Freedom Act of 2010

Read The Bill: H.R. 5029 - GovTrack.us
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