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Old 10-27-2010, 04:16 AM
 
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I think many Bush voters have no memory. Perhaps it is embarassment?

I tend to agree with this Forbes Magazine article... keep in mind they aren't the "liberal media".


Oooops.

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Clinton inherited a $290 billion deficit from George H.W. Bush. He reversed Bush's and Reagan's trickle down economic policies, raising taxes on the wealthy, and reducing them on the working and middle classes. He was able to reduce the deficit every single year of his presidency. By 1997, the government was running budgetary surpluses, the first since 1969. He delivered a $230 billion surplus in 2000.

Bush reversed Clinton's policies, lowering taxes on the very wealthy - his "base" as he called them - and effectively raising them on everyone else. In his first full year at the helm of the economy, he delivered a $157 billion deficit, and he never looked back. By 2004, the deficits were topping $400 billion a year. While Clinton delivered surpluses, Bush's deficits totaled some $3.7 trillion over his eight-year term. Clinton 6: Bush 0.

There is no subtlety, no ambiguity about the data or the economic performance they reveal. By every single measure, Bush's policies and tenure were worse - much worse - for the American economy and the American people than those pursued by Bill Clinton. And we are still living today in the aftermath of the destruction they have wrought.

We could add any number of other measures as well, measures not offered up by Forbes but which are still straightforward indices of economic performance. Clinton reduced poverty, from 15.1% when he took office to 11.3% when he left. Bush increased it, from 11.3% when he started to 12.5% at the end of 2008.

The stock market more than tripled under Clinton's tenure. The Dow went from 3,241 when he took office to 10,587 on the day he left. It actually declined under Bush's tenure, from 10,587 on the day he took office to 8,281 on the day he left. Between the recent stock market collapse and the housing crash, Bush destroyed more than $14 trillion in consumer wealth, a staggering, almost incomprehensible legacy of devastation that will haunt Americans for decades to come.
Bush voters owe 14 trillion. Pay up.

We'll call it a Personal Responsibility Tax
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:52 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Lol- a 'forbes article' that comes straight from commondrivel.org, thus the conspicuously lacking link.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Some people need to move on and get a life. We are not talking about Bush any more, or have you no memory! We cannot move on, if we cannot face reality, and Obama, is not by any means doing us a bang up job, as he himself promised us. No President's have seen to gotten so many free passes as Obama, and the things that comes out of his mouth, Please. I disagree with you, I voted for Bush, but when things were not going right, i did not sit back and make excuses as Obama's sheeple do. I would send letters and emails, about my feelings, did no good, but did them anyways. I don't make excuses for the sake of my party, when something is wrong, i admit it, and in my opinion Obama, was not experienced enough to handle this job.
I've yet to see you actually respond to a thread without blaming Obama, or standing up for the previous administration.

What exactly should the current administration due to address the mortgage crisis? What can be done to eliminate the FORECLOSURES, SHORT SALES, REPOS, AND IRRESPONSIBLE BORROWING?

Do you want Obama to become your landlord? Should the federal govt be taking over state law and deciding on personal loans? Sounds like your a socialist for thinking so.

Personally, I'm glad McLandlord lost in 08 and I hope that every idiotic borrower flops and creates an honest real estate correction where owning is affordable for those that have stable incomes and renting can become reasonable.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Here we go again...I guess you've been oblivious to all things political for your entire life. Either that or this is just more BS.
I think people who make comments like that are people who are just turning 18 and Obama is the 1st president they have ever known.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:21 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I think people who make comments like that are people who are just turning 18 and Obama is the 1st president they have ever known.

I'm curious? What do you expect with that comment? I'm a well educated voter who turned 18 a couple of decades before Obama was eligible. Should I be calling you out for something, say you probably haven't been around beyond the neo-con years. Maybe I should actually ask what you're stance on what the mid-terms should bring for out troops in Afghanistan, or to close up our neo-con adventures. How should we make our economy solvent after all of our invasions?
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:40 AM
 
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I'm beginning to think that Barack Obama is one of the most corrupt politicians I've ever witnessed in my lifetime.

- Wall Street connections

- Lies

- Campaigning. Especially when one of his promises was not to campaign. He's not the first to do it, but he has been excessive in the mid terms.

- Like all super rich, he wants more taxes. They won't affect him because he's already set for life, as well as his children.

- Everything he seems to say is either divisive or demeaning.

I used to think that he just wasn't fit for the job. Now I'm beginning to wonder if there is not something worse which runs deeper.

I would suggest you go to the dictionary, look up the word "corruption" then familiarize yourself more with American history then get back with us.

The Bush 43 use of misleading and faulty intelligence to persuade the American public, Congress and the international community that a war with Iraq was justified could be considered an act of corruption. Also the fact that Halliburton and its former subsidary KBR got major governent contracts worth billions of dollars. Former Vice President Dick Cheney was the C.E.O. of Halliburton before his become Vice President.

You don't have to go back to far to see that in 1970’s President Richard Nixon was involved in arguably one of the biggest scandals in U.S. History the Watergate Break In. Not only were Republican operatives caught breaking into a Democrat Party office, the White House including the President was involved in a huge cover up. President Nixon was forced to resign. He is the sitting President to resign from office.

There is a difference between outright corruption and a politician not fulfilling his campaign promises.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:22 AM
 
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He is not accepted as our president any more than he acts like a president to ALL Americans. And your insults and name-calling of people who disagree, factually, with you says much more about you than anyone else.

Welcome to ignore.
Correction he's not accepted by YOU as our President.

I didn't like George W. Bush Jr. but I still accepted him as our President.

You will get your chance to vote President Obama out of office in November 2012. Until then unless something unforeseen happens he's still President of the United States whether you like it or not.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:24 AM
 
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He will be once he claims WMD.
And give muliti-billion contracts to companies once run by his vice president.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:29 AM
 
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Bush signs Wall Street bailout - Washington Times

The Bush Tax Increase

Bush Admits Iraq Had No Weapons of Mass Destruction, No Link to 9/11

Bush Cancels Shuttle



I will not say that Obama has not made bad decisions. However, if you even remotely think that Obama is approaching Bush levels of corruption and stupidity, you're an idiot.


Again- everyone else is an "idiot". Only liberals are enlightened and have the ability to see inherent "truth". Amazing.

1. Sestak case
2. tax cheats in the cabinet
3. voter intimidation through unions
4. rigging voting machines in this election
5. soft money from Soros
6. failure to prosecute voter corruption (Black Panthers/ ACORN)
7. Illegal support of illegal immigrants

http://www.judicialwatch.org/weeklyu...n-back-chicago

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...tion_eruption/

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/06/...ption-scandal/

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Old 10-27-2010, 06:34 AM
 
Location: NC
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Nixon? Or is that too old now?
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