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Old 11-02-2010, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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"wrapping your head around" infinity isn't the big deal. It's crossing an infinite number of years. That is impossible--as infinity is not a finite number. How do you cross an infinite amount of time?
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I can show you all sorts of evidence to support the idea of creation, but the question is why do you choose to disbelieve w/out looking at it?
But we have looked at it. I myself have been looking at creationist "evidence" for the last 30 years. None of it has ever been able to stand up up to critical scrutiny.

You forget, creationism was once the reigning paradigm for both cosmology and the explanation for the origins and diversity of species. It was eventually rejected as false because it was replaced by a better one; Darwinian evolution. The superiority of evolution has only been reinforced by additional scientific discovery in the century and a half since.

Creationism is not some radical new idea trying to replace entrenched orthodoxy. It is the ancient orthodoxy long deposited in the trash bin of failed scientific ideas along with orgone energy, phlogiston and the luminiferous aether.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:04 PM
 
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"wrapping your head around" infinity isn't the big deal. It's crossing an infinite number of years. That is impossible--as infinity is not a finite number. How do you cross an infinite amount of time?




I can show you all sorts of evidence to support the idea of creation, but the question is why do you choose to disbelieve w/out looking at it?
Crossing an infinite number of years is a never-ending journey. What's so hard about that?

You can't show me any evidence to support the idea of a creator, you can only present arguments. And every argument for a creator is also an argument against a creator. Because every creator argument can be turned to support the argument for an infinite universe. You don't need a creator to create a universe that always exists. And none of your arguments explain the origin of the creator. If the creator can exist without origin, so can a universe.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:09 PM
 
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Is that because we are evolving into less intelligent animals?
There is ample evidence of that! And I'm not an evolutionist...
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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If the creator can exist without origin, so can a universe.
Let me explain this simply: God created everything, including time and space. The universe is His creation. Absent space = infinity. Absent time = eternity. God exists outside of time and space. Time and space are creations and will come to an end. What will then be left are Eternity and Infinity.

I don't expect you to believe this, but you've just been given the explanation. I hope you will see the truth some day.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I don't expect you to believe this, but you've just been given the explanation. I hope you will see the truth some day.
You would have been better occupied explaining unicorns.

Because there is more scientific evidence for unicorns than there is for a creator.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:21 PM
 
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I believe in Creationism... are you saying that I'm stupid?
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I believe in Creationism... are you saying that I'm stupid?
I don't know. I've just met you.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:23 PM
 
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I believe in Creationism... are you saying that I'm stupid?
I'll call you stupid.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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I hope you will see the truth some day.
As I also hope that you will as well.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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I'll call you stupid.
So, you're saying that almost half the country is stupid? Well, I think you're stupid for calling someone who believes in Creationism 'stupid.' If you don't believe in Creationism, fine, but I'm not going to call you stupid because you don't believe in Creationism.
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