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Old 11-15-2010, 07:48 AM
 
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Adding additional layers of govt bureaucratic nonsense will only add to the expense and improve nothing. Streamlining regulations by allowing insurance companies to operate across state lines under one umbrella of oversight will decrease administration costs and improve efficiency.

1099 Big Deal? You are darn right. Yet another expense levied on businesses of all sizes. A bigger burden on small businesses. Accounting time, cost of forms and mailings add up. Here is a good example - small business used a credit card for many purchases (fuel, supplies, etc) and makes charges to a myriad of vendors. To pay that bill they use a single check and a single vendor set up in their accouting software - the CC company.

Now, who is supposed to track the amount of purchases from each individual vendormade on that CC?
Oh I know - the CC company can provide a service for a fee - another expense on the small business. Then the business owner can perform yet another unpaid task at the end of the year to record each individual vendor and process a 1099 for them.

I run a business and have no trouble tracking my revenue & expenses. What I have a problem with is ever-encroaching govt control into my life. I am running a business, not playing RAT for the IRS, and I'll be dammed before I play the game with them.

Additionally, businesses that do business with each other and operate on different accounting systems (cash -vs- accrual) will never match up figures, especially at year end., - another rat's nest that the feds did not account for.

Once again , you purposely failed to answer my question - what does this 1099 proposal have to do with Healthcare?

Your only answer - a run-around comment - Big Deal.

You want respect?

Offer up direct answers to direct questions instead of playing the run-around game with useless drivel then complaining that an intelligent discussion cannot be had.

I guess this comes with age and experience.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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The honeymoon with the US press is over.

They have finally removed their rose colored glasses and have caught a glimpse behind the curtain.

Obobo, and his socialist policies like Single-Payer Health Care/Cap&Trade are dead in the water.

p.s. - no need for single payer. Remove the interstate restrictions on insurance companies coupled with tort reform to eliminate a good portion of defensive procedures and health care costs and premiums will be reduced..

These two measures could be accomplished on a one-page bill -vs- 2000+ page disaster.
Can't rep you again so
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:18 AM
 
Location: South East
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Adding additional layers of govt bureaucratic nonsense will only add to the expense and improve nothing. Streamlining regulations by allowing insurance companies to operate across state lines under one umbrella of oversight will decrease administration costs and improve efficiency.

1099 Big Deal? You are darn right. Yet another expense levied on businesses of all sizes. A bigger burden on small businesses. Accounting time, cost of forms and mailings add up. Here is a good example - small business used a credit card for many purchases (fuel, supplies, etc) and makes charges to a myriad of vendors. To pay that bill they use a single check and a single vendor set up in their accouting software - the CC company.

Now, who is supposed to track the amount of purchases from each individual vendormade on that CC?
Oh I know - the CC company can provide a service for a fee - another expense on the small business. Then the business owner can perform yet another unpaid task at the end of the year to record each individual vendor and process a 1099 for them.

I run a business and have no trouble tracking my revenue & expenses. What I have a problem with is ever-encroaching govt control into my life. I am running a business, not playing RAT for the IRS, and I'll be dammed before I play the game with them.

Additionally, businesses that do business with each other and operate on different accounting systems (cash -vs- accrual) will never match up figures, especially at year end., - another rat's nest that the feds did not account for.

Once again , you purposely failed to answer my question - what does this 1099 proposal have to do with Healthcare?

Your only answer - a run-around comment - Big Deal.

You want respect?

Offer up direct answers to direct questions instead of playing the run-around game with useless drivel then complaining that an intelligent discussion cannot be had.

I guess this comes with age and experience.
I tried to rep you, but have to spread more around first. So here is my rep:
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:24 AM
 
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Of course he has a chance for a second term. Who does the GOP have to oppose him?? Palin?? Romney?? They are a joke!
I wish Ron Paul would run again.

Ron Paul to Revolutionize the House Monetary Policy Panel | STATESMAN SENTINEL (http://statesmansentinel.com/ron-paul-totally-revolutionize-house-monetary-policy-panel - broken link)
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:42 AM
 
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Single Payer would completely screw with the insurance industry.

So, if you're against Single Payer you're on the side of insurance lobbyists.

Taking a shower won't remove that stench.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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The OP, who has conveniently disappeared from the conversation, would stand to benefit greatly from a single payer system. She would pay very little into it, relative to what she would get out of it.

Her position is based on having a sick child, not unbiased objectivity or what's best for the country as a whole. She's constantly pushing for YOU to pay HER expenses, because she doesn't want to take that responsibility on herself.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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A National Health Plan pays for itself. It would collect premiums (taxes) from all citizens and pay the providers a set amount. The fact is that would make the government the "400 pound gorilla" in the room with big pharma and the medical establishment. With 300 million members, the government could then demand lower rates and end "medical inflation" running so high. That is why Canadians pay about 1/2 what we pay for prescriptions. Big pharma can push you around and they can push your employer or insurance co around. But they cannot push the government around. If the government says "we are not paying that much for Levitra", you can bet the price of Levitra will drop.

Do you understand the reason for high costs of drugs here in America? It's because we pay for all the R&D that goes into creating these drugs. If you'd rather the U.S. not be a leader in pharm, go to Canada. They also have the health care system you seem to love so much, and then we would have a few less liberal rants to listen to. It's win-win.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Reality
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Single Payer would completely screw with the insurance industry.

So, if you're against Single Payer you're on the side of insurance lobbyists.

Taking a shower won't remove that stench.
There's nothing inherently evil about the concept of insurance, liberals like to make anything that is profitable out to be evil because they envy anything and anyone who does better than they do.

and insurance just happens to be their target at the moment. Next year they'll attack the food industry because evil farmers are making money off of the hunger of children all over the world.

Health insurance companies could use a lot of overhauling and proper regulation but eliminating the entire industry would eliminate hundreds of thousands of jobs (something Obama seems to be good at doing without messing with heath-care).
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Reality
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The OP, who has conveniently disappeared from the conversation, would stand to benefit greatly from a single payer system. She would pay very little into it, relative to what she would get out of it.

Her position is based on having a sick child, not unbiased objectivity or what's best for the country as a whole. She's constantly pushing for YOU to pay HER expenses, because she doesn't want to take that responsibility on herself.
Yep, and of course as soon as you object to footing the bill for her area responsibility you're made out as an evil person who doesn't care about sick children. Of course the OP doesn't pay a penny towards anyone else's sick children... rich people are supposed to do that.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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A frequent complaint of Democrat voters is that President Obama has accomplished a lot, and brags little. I agree.

President Obama has two years at least (hopefully more). He has to find a marketing team that will pummel the press, facebooks, tweets, TV and radio with a hard sell on a soft subject- Universal Single Payer Healthcare ( MEDICARE for all). It is an EASY sell, because HR676 is a simple & logical plan, but President Obama has to have the will to gather a marketing team together that has the will to just SELL IT.

How is it going to sell? Most people don't want it. People who wants it because they don't have to pay in the current system so they don't care. Why is this a good thing when we are force to accepted at gun point?

The government is hiring 16000 IRS agents to make sure the people don't pay into this pay for this. If this is such a good idea, then why force it?
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