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Single Payer would completely screw with the insurance industry.
So, if you're against Single Payer you're on the side of insurance lobbyists.
Taking a shower won't remove that stench.
the dems supported the insurance not singlepayer
most that are against single payer, are not against the system, but against the fact that the taxpayers cant afford it
look up the federal budget, we currently do have a singlepayer system, its called medicaid, last FY, it cost 310 billion to cover less than 30 million people, and that's with the low medicaid payments to doctors.
you do the math, it would cost about 3 trillion a year for singlepayer
you do the math, there are about 105 million taxpayers in the usa
can you afford a 25k yearly tax bill?, I sure cant
This is true. The HCB adds federal regulation to the health industry as a whole. A much needed measure.
And why do you think this is a much needed measure? Under what jurisdiction do you think the federal government has to make such a claim? Where is their authorization? Remember, they REFUSED to allow companies to cross state lines. This refusal removed their authorization to regulate on a national level. I have yet to hear ONE good reason why federal regulations were needed. You dont think states were regulating?
Single Payer would completely screw with the insurance industry.
So, if you're against Single Payer you're on the side of insurance lobbyists.
Taking a shower won't remove that stench.
Ahh, lookie.. more hyperbold rambling from left wingers who need their governmental welfare....
But as usual, you liberals got it backwards.. If the government was OUT of the insurance business, then there would be no insurance lobbyists.. there would be nothing to lobby for.. if you are for single payer, you are supporting these lobbyists.. and you dont even understand this do you? There isnt a proposal that would do away with insurance companies. Not even single payer does away with them.. Do you realize this? Of course not, you are too interested in just rambling on and on and on without knowing any facts..
And why do you think this is a much needed measure? Under what jurisdiction do you think the federal government has to make such a claim? Where is their authorization? Remember, they REFUSED to allow companies to cross state lines. This refusal removed their authorization to regulate on a national level. I have yet to hear ONE good reason why federal regulations were needed. You dont think states were regulating?
If the insurance companies are allowed to peddle their products across state lines then federal regulations will be necessary to protect the consumer. This fact is often overlooked by the proponents of such a measure. They tend to tap dance around this basic fact. What they really want is nulification of state regulations by selling across state lines and no federal regulation once this is acomplished. Defacto, total deregulation of the health insurance industry. That's my take on the issue. Prior to federal regulations of credit card companies they all operated out of Delaware. It's no secret why.
If the insurance companies are allowed to peddle their products across state lines then federal regulations will be necessary to protect the consumer. This fact is often overlooked by the proponents of such a measure. They tend to tap dance around this basic fact. What they really want is nulification of state regulations by selling across state lines and no federal regulation once this is acomplished. Defacto, total deregulation of the health insurance industry. That's my take on the issue. Prior to federal regulations of credit card companies they all operated out of Delaware. It's no secret why.
Pure and simple BUNK....
and yes - I am singling you out and will stay on your trail as far as this subject is concerned.
If Health Insurance Industry oversight was administered like the FAA, Federal regulations would trump state regs, and the insurance companies would be allowed to operate in as many states as they desired - increase the pool of partcipants and lower premiums. It is funny how your rebuttals stopped when I tossed up the FAA example to counter your notion that Insurance Companies will pick the least regulated state in which to headquarter their operations. (FACT -vs- NOTION).
Many corporations set up in Delaware because it has NO STATE CORP INCOME TAX.
p.s. - I'm waiting for your straight answer to my other question:
What does the 1099 proposal included in the Heath Care Bill have to do with Heathcare?
After you answer that question - then my next step will be to show you how much money is wasted on defensive medicine because of the out-of-control tort system in this country. Too bad this country does not operate under English law - if a lawsuit is brought and the plaintiff loses, they pay all legal and court costs including those of the defendent. It would put an end to most of the 33.3% ambulance chaser industry.
Straight answers, - no notions...
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Anyways, I hope Obama really does continue selling socialized medicine. It's wildly unpopular and the more he tries to sell it the worse his chances of reelection will be.
I've said this before: There are two classes of people okay with socialism: People wealthy enough to afford it, and people who believe that they'll get more out of it than they put in to it.
A frequent complaint of Democrat voters is that President Obama has accomplished a lot, and brags little. I agree.
President Obama has two years at least (hopefully more). He has to find a marketing team that will pummel the press, facebooks, tweets, TV and radio with a hard sell on a soft subject- Universal Single Payer Healthcare ( MEDICARE for all). It is an EASY sell, because HR676 is a simple & logical plan, but President Obama has to have the will to gather a marketing team together that has the will to just SELL IT.
Single payer is a disaster, and will always be a disaster, wherever and whenever it is tried. The head of the Canadian system recently stated that their system is on the verge of imploding.
If you want it, buy it. You decide and pay with your own money, with insurance ONLY for catastrophic illnesses. Prices will plumet and quality will go up.
It is a little thing I like to call "market forces".
However, if you are a parasite who wants others to pay for what you consume (instead of you paying for what you consume) you would be against such a plan.
The agitator’s job,” according to Alinsky, “is first to bring folks to the realization that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments and greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they think they deserve.”
There is no free lunch, a fact that Obobo refuses to acknowedge.
If the insurance companies are allowed to peddle their products across state lines then federal regulations will be necessary to protect the consumer. This fact is often overlooked by the proponents of such a measure. They tend to tap dance around this basic fact. What they really want is nulification of state regulations by selling across state lines and no federal regulation once this is acomplished. Defacto, total deregulation of the health insurance industry. That's my take on the issue. Prior to federal regulations of credit card companies they all operated out of Delaware. It's no secret why.
IF the insurance companies are allowed to peddle their products across state lines.. the fact is THEY ARE NOT allowed. There is no federal jurisdiction. Only AFTER this interstate commerce can take place does federal jurisdiction pickup.. Not now where its state by state
Furthermore they CLEARLY have no jurisdiction to regulate a lack of commerce taking place which is why I along with numerous others have filed suit against the government. Thats what the federal government wants to do.. require commerce so they can regulate it, but I'm not taking part in this commerce, therefore there is no jurisdiction for the federal government to get involved.
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