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What did the Founding Fathers know about shoe bombers or airplanes for that matter?
Perhaps you could rephrase the question to: What did the Founders mean when they said the right of the people to bear arms (and inflict capital punishment upon those who trespass) shall not be infringed?
Why should any American be disarmed by his "public servants"?
It's not for his own good... unarmed people are easy prey. Why shouldn't airline passengers be armed to the teeth?
Then we add in the observation that suicidal attackers are hard to deal with - under current rules. The perception that America is "attacking" Islam, helps fuel the zealots to retaliate.
I am curious as to the constitutional delegation of authority to invade two Asian nations, absent a declaration of war, or any demonstrated attack upon Americans by said nations, their military, or their people. (9/11 terrorists were predominantly Saudi - which should have resulted in an attack upon the home of Islam's most holy shrine ... uh, forget I mentioned that...)
No it doesn't. That's why they didn't get a search warrant. Because the law wouldn't allow it. Hence, they abuse this loophole to get around that fact.
Here is what you wrote:
What's going on is here obvious. The Federal Government has the authority to conduct border searches of people entering the country that are far broader than for those inside the country, and such searches require no search warrant. The Government has that power in order to prevent security threats from entering the country, but here, they are clearly exploiting and abusing it in order to conduct investigative searches which would ordinarily require a search warrant but for which they have no basis to obtain one.
What's going on is here obvious. The Federal Government has the authority to conduct border searches of people entering the country that are far broader than for those inside the country, and such searches require no search warrant. The Government has that power in order to prevent security threats from entering the country, but here, they are clearly exploiting and abusing it in order to conduct investigative searches which would ordinarily require a search warrant but for which they have no basis to obtain one.
I asked a question based upon your statement.
I'll be back tomorrow.
Everything wiki leaks did was completely legal. All this man did was help set up a defense fund for the accused.
Only a rank authoritarian would cheer on the government spying on him without a search warrant.
And how do you KNOW this situation involved a "security threat"????? Because you are taking the government world for it aren't you?.....That's is sad.
I mean we could just forget about the 4th amendment and go about basing searches on dragnet profiling. Men tend to make up the vast majority of rapists...why not force all men to submit their DNA to a national registry dedicated to catching rapists? Illegal immigration is a huge problem, why not make all the legal citizens give their biometric data to the government so employers can run searches to make sure everyone they hire is legal?
Though for some reason I think these would be very bad ideas.
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They couldn't even fathom sky travel when the constitution was written. I really don't think that these guys were DaVinci's.
Did you complain about the patriot act when it was enacted?
You (generic) got what you wished for.
No but they had Benedict Arnold who took over West Point.
Did they go all pansy and "fearful" after that and not trust any other American until they proved themselves ? Here we are guilty until groped into innocence.
Now what triggered this was the underwear bomber. If you recall his father reported his son as dangerous and this guy was also on the No-Fly list. So even with his father reporting him and him being on the no fly list he still got on the plane and his underwear bomb dudded out.
The really stupid thing is that the underwear bomber flew here from another country. He didn't even board his plane in America. I'm all for air safety, but things have gotten a little ridiculous. We're groping our holiday travelers, and yet 90% of cargo containers that enter this country go unchecked. Talk about wonky priorities.
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