What will it take to end homelessness once and for all? (activist, environmentalists)

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by hnsq

You are not required to take a lunch break. Is it unethical to eat lunch?

You are not required to stop working after 8 hours (you can voluntarily work more), so is it unethical to go home after your shift ends?

Actually, I am required to punch out no later than six hours from the beginning of work to take an unpaid "meal" break, even though I don't eat. I don't know whether it is company policy or state law, but we can't work more than six hours straight. As for the one ON the clock? I work right through it, and if it weren't for the fact that they wrote me up for working off the clock once, I'd skip the second as well (I'd punch out, and go back to work). Now I have to sit and do nothing for a half hour.

And they're pretty picky about the overtime...in addition to the whole "working off the clock" thing. Otherwise, I'd gladly do it. I can always find ways to make my area look even better, if given the time.

[martyann]

Originally Posted by 01Snake

So there were no homeless people prior to the 80's? Who knew?

Noboldy knew if since it is a fabrication.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by Chuckity

Wrong. On average, Democrats are the wealthier breed.




Your vacation time is part of a benefits package offered to an employee.

It's not unethical to partake of your employment benefits - it's an agreement between two entities.

It is accepting pay for nothing in return. You work, they pay you. But if you take a sick day or a vacation day, you don't work, and they pay you.

That's theft.

[Zyngawf]

There are people that choose to be homeless so then you never can end it.

[CaseyB]

Stay on the original topic (homelessness) or the thread will be closed.

[andrea3821]

Originally Posted by CaseyB

Stay on the original topic (homelessness) or the thread will be closed.

I have nothing to say until someone tries to pick apart the statistics I posted a couple pages back.

[ergohead]

Open up Federal land.

Unabomber's Cabin

[Chuckity]

Originally Posted by TKramar

It is accepting pay for nothing in return. You work, they pay you. But if you take a sick day or a vacation day, you don't work, and they pay you.

That's theft.

If a homeless* man took vacation time and got paid for it, because of a prior agreement with their employer, it's not theft.

For a theft to occur, the homeless man would need to be taking something unlawfully. Pre-arranged vacation time (or sick time for that matter) isn't theft.

Find me a link where someone was brought up on charges for taking paid vacation and then we'll talk.

*Staying on topic as requested

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by andrea3821

National Alliance to End Homelessness: About Homelessness: Snapshot of Homelessness

.22% of people are homeless in the US on any given night.

That's stats are skewed to achieve a desired result. You should rely on data from a more neutral organization.

Anyway, accepting your figures for the time being, we're talking about .22% of the population.

I will now teach you something you didn't learn in the 5th Grade.

A figure of 0.22% is 660,000 people.

And we spend more than $60 Billion per year on them we comes out to:

$90,909 per homeless person per year.

That is 6 times more than I make per year, which with VA Disability and the contract work I do, about $14,000 per year.

$90,909 is twice the median income (and that is median and not mean) of households in Ohio.

And you want us to give them more money?

You have to be insane.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Actually, I am required to punch out no later than six hours from the beginning of work to take an unpaid "meal" break, even though I don't eat. I don't know whether it is company policy or state law, but we can't work more than six hours straight. As for the one ON the clock? I work right through it, and if it weren't for the fact that they wrote me up for working off the clock once, I'd skip the second as well (I'd punch out, and go back to work). Now I have to sit and do nothing for a half hour.

And they're pretty picky about the overtime...in addition to the whole "working off the clock" thing. Otherwise, I'd gladly do it. I can always find ways to make my area look even better, if given the time.

A pinup is worth a thousand floor sweepings.