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Old 12-08-2010, 03:16 PM
 
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Personally, I think I'll wait until they post this years report on their website so I can see HOW they arrived at their conclusions.

Y'all go ahead and get all outraged while I wait.
Exactly. I don't know what they did or how they did it.
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Well I am waiting to see how its all GWB's fault. Thats the standard excuse for any failings.
I want to read the report when its posted and see just what brought this result about.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:03 PM
 
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What's the rightwing answer to this?................ How would they raise the USA's ranking on this list?

Oh they would create laws making what journalists and wikileaks do illegal.

The would increase the powers of government to keep things secret.

They would punish those who publish government wrong doing if it happens to be "classified".

The USA is lower on the list because Americans are gullible enough and stupid enough to believe no principles are as important than the "war on terrorism"....That trumps everything.

Cry babies yell "terrorism" and you must give up your civil liberties.
If I was doing the rankings, I would put the US alongside Mexico in terms of corruption. We're just much better at hiding it while in Mexico the corruption is the in-your-face kind
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:19 PM
 
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If I was doing the rankings, I would put the US alongside Mexico in terms of corruption. We're just much better at hiding it while in Mexico the corruption is the in-your-face kind
I respectfully disagree. I think it is shamefully in our faces.

John Boehner, who is set to be the new Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, is one of the most lobby-friendly politicians in Washington, located at the centre of a web of corporate cash and influence.
John Boehner's links to lobbyists could be the ***** in his political armour | World news | The Observer


A year after the biggest bailout in US history, Wall Street lobbyists don't just have influence in Washington. They own it lock, stock, and barrel.
Capital City | Mother Jones

Without Campaign Finance Reform the bribery is unrestrained and ever apparent.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Earth
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On the Transparency International site, it stated that many of the declines in position related to countries most tied into the global financial crisis which was caused by corruption and a lack of transparency. The US would be #1 in this category followed by Britain. No surprise that both have declined in their rankings (as has Greece for the same reason)
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:41 PM
 
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I respectfully disagree. I think it is shamefully in our faces.

John Boehner, who is set to be the new Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, is one of the most lobby-friendly politicians in Washington, located at the centre of a web of corporate cash and influence.
John Boehner's links to lobbyists could be the ***** in his political armour | World news | The Observer


A year after the biggest bailout in US history, Wall Street lobbyists don't just have influence in Washington. They own it lock, stock, and barrel.
Capital City | Mother Jones

Without Campaign Finance Reform the bribery is unrestrained and ever apparent.
Campaign finance reform will not do anything. It's simply sticking a bandage on a gunshot wound. Until people start acknowledging that our government is owned by the people that own JP Morgan & Chase, Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve, and other megabanks (notice how the US started it's censoring screams AFTER Assange said he has secret information on a huge US bank) no amount of "reform" will do any good. No reform has been good in the past. The past financial "reform" puts additional regulations especially on small businesses that can't afford it. Since you acknowledge that lobbyists own the District of Criminals, that means that HCR, financial reform, and the Food Safety Bill are tainted with corporate lobbyist corruption that benefit BIG MONEY, not the little guy like most liberals would like to believe. But yes you are right, DC is owned lock, stock and barrel by the lobbyists AND Big Money.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Campaign finance reform will not do anything. It's simply sticking a bandage on a gunshot wound. Until people start acknowledging that our government is owned by the people that own JP Morgan & Chase, Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve, and other megabanks (notice how the US started it's censoring screams AFTER Assange said he has secret information on a huge US bank) no amount of "reform" will do any good. No reform has been good in the past. The past financial "reform" puts additional regulations especially on small businesses that can't afford it. Since you acknowledge that lobbyists own the District of Criminals, that means that HCR, financial reform, and the Food Safety Bill are tainted with corporate lobbyist corruption that benefit BIG MONEY, not the little guy like most liberals would like to believe. But yes you are right, DC is owned lock, stock and barrel by the lobbyists AND Big Money.

You do know, don't you, that if you belong to just about any organization, from the NRA to the VFW to the Lions Club to the Masons to the Cattlemen's Association, YOU have lobbyist's in Washington too and YOUR lobbyist's are up there passing around donations and influencing legislation for YOU.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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On the Transparency International site, it stated that many of the declines in position related to countries most tied into the global financial crisis which was caused by corruption and a lack of transparency. The US would be #1 in this category followed by Britain. No surprise that both have declined in their rankings (as has Greece for the same reason)

All I see on their website is the 2009 report.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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We become more and more like the Third World every day, every hour

I am not even sure if we can be put in the same category as Europe and Japan as prosperous industrialized countries anymore...
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:33 PM
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt we just have hundreds of thousands of documents released showing the amount of corruption involved in our government?
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