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Old 12-08-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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You do know, don't you, that if you belong to just about any organization, from the NRA to the VFW to the Lions Club to the Masons to the Cattlemen's Association, YOU have lobbyist's in Washington too and YOUR lobbyist's are up there passing around donations and influencing legislation for YOU.
Lobbying Washington was not always synonomous with bribery. The Supreme Court deeming that corporations are people (?) did nothing but exacerbate an already horrendous situation.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:39 PM
 
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Campaign finance reform will not do anything. It's simply sticking a bandage on a gunshot wound. Until people start acknowledging that our government is owned by the people that own JP Morgan & Chase, Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve, and other megabanks (notice how the US started it's censoring screams AFTER Assange said he has secret information on a huge US bank) no amount of "reform" will do any good. No reform has been good in the past. The past financial "reform" puts additional regulations especially on small businesses that can't afford it. Since you acknowledge that lobbyists own the District of Criminals, that means that HCR, financial reform, and the Food Safety Bill are tainted with corporate lobbyist corruption that benefit BIG MONEY, not the little guy like most liberals would like to believe. But yes you are right, DC is owned lock, stock and barrel by the lobbyists AND Big Money.
Representatives commence fund raising for the next campaign the moment they are elected. As in other countries, a limit as to what can be spent on campaigns would do much good. This unrestrained campaign spending also knocks out potentially good candidates which has left us stuck with a two party system.

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Old 12-08-2010, 08:52 PM
 
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(Reuters) - The United States has dropped out of the "top 20" in a global league table of least corrupt nations, tarnished by financial scandals and the influence of money in politics, Transparency International said on Tuesday.
U.S. slips to historic low in global corruption index | Reuters

How utterly shocking. I am sure that we will fare even further down the chart within the next few years.
There is nothing new here. Politicians in America are brought and paid for by corporate interests in the wealthy.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Personally, I think I'll wait until they post this years report on their website so I can see HOW they arrived at their conclusions.

Y'all go ahead and get all outraged while I wait.
You could probably get a head start by seeing what they've done the previous 14 years. I doubt that they completely reinvented the wheel
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