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Let me see if I have this straight from the more extreme rightists on the board:
1) If you work for the government as firefighter, teacher, nurse, mailman or other necessary job you are not successful. If you inherit Wal Mart stock, run the economy into the ground as a banking CEO then you are a success. Ergo the mailman and the teacher really should shoulder the burdens of the economy because terrible things would happen if the billionaire had to pay more.
2) If you are job seeker who cannot find work in truly bad economy you are truly evil. You should be thrown out into the street and forced to repay every single cent you ever earned in employment. Because the real evil isn't the overfed CEO who underpays his workers or ships jobs to countries where they hire ten year olds. The real evil are the guys who want more than $5 an hour.
Call me a crazy liberal but no, I don't think that Lloyd Blankenfeld, CEO of Goldman Sachs is that much of a success no matter how much he's paid. I don't think success completely revolves around the money you make. I think a good teacher, a compassionate nurse, a firefighter who risks his life to save you from a burning building is far more successful than any overpaid CEO. I am sick to death of Republican hatred for the working class and their idiotic arguments otherwise. I am sick of hearing that unless you are one of the top 2% of earners in our society you are essentially worthless to our society.
The only thing worse than Obama's cowardice is Republican contempt. Worse their belief that we should borrow $900 million from China to pay for it.
Don't blame me because your premise is defective. Get that right first.
No, my premise is just fine. Seeing as how the cuts were TEMPORARY, it's not actually a tax "increase" at all. It is a scheduled expiration of what amounts to a tax holiday.
Let me see if I have this straight from the more extreme rightists on the board:
1) If you work for the government as firefighter, teacher, nurse, mailman or other necessary job you are not successful. If you inherit Wal Mart stock, run the economy into the ground as a banking CEO then you are a success. Ergo the mailman and the teacher really should shoulder the burdens of the economy because terrible things would happen if the billionaire had to pay more.
2) If you are job seeker who cannot find work in truly bad economy you are truly evil. You should be thrown out into the street and forced to repay every single cent you ever earned in employment. Because the real evil isn't the overfed CEO who underpays his workers or ships jobs to countries where they hire ten year olds. The real evil are the guys who want more than $5 an hour.
Call me a crazy liberal but no, I don't think that Lloyd Blankenfeld, CEO of Goldman Sachs is that much of a success no matter how much he's paid. I don't think success completely revolves around the money you make. I think a good teacher, a compassionate nurse, a firefighter who risks his life to save you from a burning building is far more successful than any overpaid CEO. I am sick to death of Republican hatred for the working class and their idiotic arguments otherwise. I am sick of hearing that unless you are one of the top 2% of earners in our society you are essentially worthless to our society.
The only thing worse than Obama's cowardice is Republican contempt.
Let me see if I have this straight from the more extreme rightists on the board:
1) If you work for the government as firefighter, teacher, nurse, mailman or other necessary job you are not successful. If you inherit Wal Mart stock, run the economy into the ground as a banking CEO then you are a success. Ergo the mailman and the teacher really should shoulder the burdens of the economy because terrible things would happen if the billionaire had to pay more.
2) If you are job seeker who cannot find work in truly bad economy you are truly evil. You should be thrown out into the street and forced to repay every single cent you ever earned in employment. Because the real evil isn't the overfed CEO who underpays his workers or ships jobs to countries where they hire ten year olds. The real evil are the guys who want more than $5 an hour.
Call me a crazy liberal but no, I don't think that Lloyd Blankenfeld, CEO of Goldman Sachs is that much of a success no matter how much he's paid. I don't think success completely revolves around the money you make. I think a good teacher, a compassionate nurse, a firefighter who risks his life to save you from a burning building is far more successful than any overpaid CEO. I am sick to death of Republican hatred for the working class and their idiotic arguments otherwise. I am sick of hearing that unless you are one of the top 2% of earners in our society you are essentially worthless to our society.
The only thing worse than Obama's cowardice is Republican contempt. Worse their belief that we should borrow $900 million from China to pay for it.
1. I haven't heard anyone propose that the middle class pay MORE than the wealthy.
2. yes, jobs sent overseas is a problem. But, it is a total joke to think that extending unemployment benefits is a job creator. Seriously, that is not even close to the truth. We need to give the unemployed some incentive to work. Giving them free money does not do that.
Let me see if I have this straight from the more extreme rightists on the board:
1) If you work for the government as firefighter, teacher, nurse, mailman or other necessary job you are not successful. If you inherit Wal Mart stock, run the economy into the ground as a banking CEO then you are a success. Ergo the mailman and the teacher really should shoulder the burdens of the economy because terrible things would happen if the billionaire had to pay more.
2) If you are job seeker who cannot find work in truly bad economy you are truly evil. You should be thrown out into the street and forced to repay every single cent you ever earned in employment. Because the real evil isn't the overfed CEO who underpays his workers or ships jobs to countries where they hire ten year olds. The real evil are the guys who want more than $5 an hour.
Call me a crazy liberal but no, I don't think that Lloyd Blankenfeld, CEO of Goldman Sachs is that much of a success no matter how much he's paid. I don't think success completely revolves around the money you make. I think a good teacher, a compassionate nurse, a firefighter who risks his life to save you from a burning building is far more successful than any overpaid CEO. I am sick to death of Republican hatred for the working class and their idiotic arguments otherwise. I am sick of hearing that unless you are one of the top 2% of earners in our society you are essentially worthless to our society.
The only thing worse than Obama's cowardice is Republican contempt. Worse their belief that we should borrow $900 million from China to pay for it.
1) First sentence is a false premise, thus the remainder fails.
2) First sentence is another false premise, thus the remainder fails.
Failed thread based on false premise. No one could take this seriously. Try again without the over dramatic sarcasm and falsehoods.
1. I haven't heard anyone propose that the middle class pay MORE than the wealthy.
2. yes, jobs sent overseas is a problem. But, it is a total joke to think that extending unemployment benefits is a job creator. Seriously, that is not even close to the truth. We need to give the unemployed some incentive to work. Giving them free money does not do that.
As to point 2: You should see the difference in posts on my Facebook page from last month to this month.
Last month, not a day went by to where one of my friends on there wasn't boasting about taking some trip or going surfing or spending the day doing wine flights, etc. The term most of them were using was "Funemployment". Not 4 weeks ago there was a "Off to Rome for 2 weeks, hopefully I don't forget to 'apply' for some accounting jobs with my engineering degree lol. Funemployment rules!" They were yakkin' it up, loving every minute of it.
This month? The mood is definitively more morose amongst a great many of them. I'm seeing a lot more "Ugh, I gotta get dressed for another interview today, FML", or "GOD, I'm so sick of filling out applications, why can't they just read my resume? This sucks!!" and the like. I'm not gonna lie, a part of me smiles inside when I see it. They've been on the dole long enough. I suppose it's good work if you can get it. But it's gotta end at some point.
No, my premise is just fine. Seeing as how the cuts were TEMPORARY, it's not actually a tax "increase" at all. It is a scheduled expiration of what amounts to a tax holiday.
Under different circumstances I might agree, however, the cut rates have been in place for 9 years now. During that time, millions of new taxpayers have begun paying income taxes for the first time. You can argue semantics all you want, but to those people reverting back to the old rates would in fact be perceived as an increase.
For extra fun, Democrats spent the better part the past couple years arguing that the Republicans should accept compromise in the spirit of bipartisanship. How funny it is to see the Democrats get a taste of their own medicine by stomping around like children when they do not get their way.
Let me see if I have this straight from the more extreme rightists on the board:
1) If you work for the government as firefighter, teacher, nurse, mailman or other necessary job you are not successful. If you inherit Wal Mart stock, run the economy into the ground as a banking CEO then you are a success. Ergo the mailman and the teacher really should shoulder the burdens of the economy because terrible things would happen if the billionaire had to pay more.
2) If you are job seeker who cannot find work in truly bad economy you are truly evil. You should be thrown out into the street and forced to repay every single cent you ever earned in employment. Because the real evil isn't the overfed CEO who underpays his workers or ships jobs to countries where they hire ten year olds. The real evil are the guys who want more than $5 an hour.
Call me a crazy liberal but no, I don't think that Lloyd Blankenfeld, CEO of Goldman Sachs is that much of a success no matter how much he's paid. I don't think success completely revolves around the money you make. I think a good teacher, a compassionate nurse, a firefighter who risks his life to save you from a burning building is far more successful than any overpaid CEO. I am sick to death of Republican hatred for the working class and their idiotic arguments otherwise. I am sick of hearing that unless you are one of the top 2% of earners in our society you are essentially worthless to our society.
The only thing worse than Obama's cowardice is Republican contempt. Worse their belief that we should borrow $900 million from China to pay for it.
Amazing how you can invoke the Goldman Sachs guy and a refer to a few dozen others and pretend like they are a good excuse to screw two million taxpayers. Just like Charlie Rangel talking about multimillion dollar Wall Street bonus babies as a reason to nail people that make $200k.
99.999% of business in America has nothing to do with your giant straw man. You have no credibility when you act like it does.
No, you don't have it right. There are no tax "cuts" for everyone, this would be an extension of the current, decade long tax RATES. If they fail to extend them, that would be a tax HIKE.
You have it simply and perfectly incorrect. They are TEMPORARY tax CUTS, to previous TAX RATES. The length of time of the tax CUTS no matter how much you and the faux news attempt to harp on them, is moot. The tax CUTS were designed to be in effect for time A through time B, then sunset and RETURN to normal previously established, agreed upon RATES within the bill to enact the CUTS to the normal tax RATES.
A bill to EXTEND them would be a continuation of TAX CUTS of the previous normal tax RATES...hence the terminology....EXTENSION of Bush era TAX CUTS.
Don't forget Republicans are also hostage-taking terrorists, who shouldn't be negotiated with under any circumstances... Liberals will negotiate with Al-Qaeda terrorists, they'll negotiate with Iranian hostage-takers, they'll negotiate with Jew-killing Palestinian terrorists, but Republicans? UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES!
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