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Old 12-29-2010, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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So another words, you don't know what you are talking about like usual.
Funny guy.

Perhaps if you all stopped attacking me for a moment and getting all worked up about it, you would get an intelligent debate out of this topic. Until then, don't expect anyone to actually go through the trouble of doing the work to provide solid facts/links about the issue. Y'all need to learn to formulate your thoughts from your brain instead of letting emotion rule everything. Nothing I said was offensive, it is only my opinion, and for the millionth time, I do not think gay people are bad, I just do not agree with that lifestyle.

Anyway.

 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:27 PM
 
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Ask someone who's gay, they could tell you better than I could.
But when gay people tell you that it's not a choice, you discredit their statements.

Moderator cut: Personal attack

Last edited by Green Irish Eyes; 12-29-2010 at 10:05 PM.. Reason: Deleted personal attack
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Houston area, for now
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While I support gay marriage I can't help but wonder why. I was with a wonderful woman for almost 20 years and we never got "married". We both had living wills declaring the other in charge of medical decisions and had our wills made out. We even shared property and wore rings
The biggest reason that we didn't legally marry (for lack of a better term) was we didn't think it was any of the governments dam business.
I am afraid that gay people will find out that they may have the better of the two options. Be Careful what you wish for. However it is not my choice and If a gay friend ever decides to marry I will support him/her.
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:28 PM
 
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I don't know whether being Gay is a choice or not?
Nor do I care?
Last time I looked, being Gay in America wasn't a crime.
As far as I'm concerned, all the Homophobes can just MYOB.

Steve
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Funny guy.

Perhaps if you all stopped attacking me for a moment and getting all worked up about it, you would get an intelligent debate out of this topic. Until then, don't expect anyone to actually go through the trouble of doing the work to provide solid facts/links about the issue. Y'all need to learn to formulate your thoughts from your brain instead of letting emotion rule everything. Nothing I said was offensive, it is only my opinion, and for the millionth time, I do not think gay people are bad, I just do not agree with that lifestyle.

Anyway.
Who's attacking you? I asked could you chose to be gay? It is a simple question. I outright told you as a straight man I could not choose to be gay. How about you?
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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So tell me, at what point in your life was there a man and a woman on the table, and you picked the man? I'm straight, and there's absolutely nothing I can do to like the same sex, so why would it be different for anyone else?

What about people who have killed themselves because they were gay and didn't want to be? What about men who have lost their families because they couldn't stop sneaking out to be with other men? Or pastors who have preached against homosexuality for years and end up being gay?

"Its a choice" makes no sense. You're pretty much saying that across American and the World, there's this huge conspiracy with millions of people either all working together (knowingly making themselves apart of a group that is discriminated against), or falling for something that doesn't exist. Have some common sense...
Anyone who has killed themselves has only themselves to blame. Perhaps they should have sought out a therapist or a priest if they were that distraught over their homosexual feelings.

If men are "losing their families" by sneaking around sleeping with other men, again, they only have themselves to blame. Perhaps some self-control would be a good thing to learn.

I never said or implied anything about a conspiracy. I feel it is a choice, just as it's my choice to be with a man, it's a gay guy's choice to also be with a man. Nobody is forcing that on him.

I am not going to get into my personal sex life as that is inappropriate. It is your choice to be with someone of the opposite sex, as it is your choice to not be with anyone at all, or someone of the same sex. Please tell me how free will does not apply here.
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I'm gay---didn't choose it. Never met anyone gay who did. Met a few bi-sexuals who did. Did you choose to be straight? If the answer is "yes", then you've just doubled your chances for a date on Saturday night.
I take it you've polled each of the gay people you have met, yes?

Yes, I chose to be straight, that doesn't double my chances for any kind of date as I am married.
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:34 PM
 
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Anyone who has killed themselves has only themselves to blame. Perhaps they should have sought out a therapist or a priest if they were that distraught over their homosexual feelings.

If men are "losing their families" by sneaking around sleeping with other men, again, they only have themselves to blame. Perhaps some self-control would be a good thing to learn.

I never said or implied anything about a conspiracy. I feel it is a choice, just as it's my choice to be with a man, it's a gay guy's choice to also be with a man. Nobody is forcing that on him.

I am not going to get into my personal sex life as that is inappropriate. It is your choice to be with someone of the opposite sex, as it is your choice to not be with anyone at all, or someone of the same sex. Please tell me how free will does not apply here.
Are you telling us that you are also sexually attracted to women, but you choose not to act on it?
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Who's attacking you? I asked could you chose to be gay? It is a simple question. I outright told you as a straight man I could not choose to be gay. How about you?
Yes, I could choose to be gay if I was so inclined.

I posted that reply before I even got to yours, I did not feel you were attacking me as the others have been.
 
Old 12-29-2010, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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While I support gay marriage I can't help but wonder why. I was with a wonderful woman for almost 20 years and we never got "married". We both had living wills declaring the other in charge of medical decisions and had our wills made out. We even shared property and wore rings

Um, yeah, that was the point I was trying to bring up before I was attacked from all sides. And I have yet to see any response to it, aside from yours.

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Originally Posted by Gearhound View Post
I don't know whether being Gay is a choice or not?
Nor do I care?
Last time I looked, being Gay in America wasn't a crime.
As far as I'm concerned, all the Homophobes can just MYOB.

Steve
But why does someone who doesn't agree with being gay have to be labeled a homophobe? The term honestly does not make any sense. I can't think of anyone who is truly afraid of homosexual people.

Last edited by Green Irish Eyes; 12-29-2010 at 10:06 PM.. Reason: Please report, rather than respond.
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