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If the Republicans were smart they would do just that, attack the costs of the bill. Have hearings and expose how the Democrats tried to pull a fast one about how much this monstrosity really costs. Democrats can say that people will like some things in the bill, but the true cost will have everyone's head spinning.
I'd also look into how the Democrats had big pharma basically write the bill.
Trust me Obama and the Dems don't want another year of health care talk, especially when they can't control the debate like the last time.
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If the Republicans were smart they would do just that, attack the costs of the bill. Have hearings and expose how the Democrats tried to pull a fast one about how much this monstrosity really costs. Democrats can say that people will like some things in the bill, but the true cost will have everyone's head spinning.
I'd also look into how the Democrats had big pharma basically write the bill.
Trust me Obama and the Dems don't want another year of health care talk, especially when they can't control the debate like the last time.
I've heard it's gonna cost ~ 2 trillion dollars
Do you know what happens when people expose true costs?
On September 15, 2002, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Lindsey estimated the high limit on the cost of the Bush administration's plan in 2002 of invasion and regime change in Iraq to be 1-2% of GNP, or about $100–$200 billion.[1]Mitch Daniels, Director of the Office of Management and Budget, subsequently discounted this estimate as "very, very high" and stated that the costs would be between $50–$60 billion.[2] This lower figure was endorsed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld[2] who called Lindsey's estimate "baloney".[3]
The popularity is worse now than before it passed and the repeal of obamacare has wide public support, so the GOP controlled House has a mandate - they ran against obamacare, the dems had historic losses because of obamacare - so the mandate from the American people is there, to repeal this disaster and CUT the budget.
"Senators Reid, Durbin, Schumer, Murray and Stabenow:
Thank you for reminding us – and the American people – of the backroom deal that you struck behind closed doors with ‘Big Pharma,’ resulting in bigger profits for the drug companies, and higher prescription drug costs for 33 million seniors enrolled in Medicare Part D, at a cost to the taxpayers of $42.6 billion.
The House is going to pass legislation to repeal that now. You’re welcome.
- Speaker-Designate John Boehner’s Press Office"
Do you think that the law will be retooled like that poster wants to see done? Do you really think that forcing people to buy insurance from anyone is Constitutional? Maybe you need to read the Constitution along with the House people tomorrow.
I don't see how it won't be.
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Individual mandates will be thrown out, but the rest of it will likely remain. Republicans can say "see, we fixed part of it" and the President can say "We're still covering an additional 4 million people"
Win win for both sides. But complete repeal and defunding won't happen.
Individual mandates will be thrown out, but the rest of it will likely remain. Republicans can say "see, we fixed part of it" and the President can say "We're still covering an additional 4 million people"
Win win for both sides. But complete repeal and defunding won't happen.
Throwing out the Mandate would likely turn out pushing us to the single payer system we need. It's funny, the Repubs are all for removing their own idea, an idea that would keep the HC system totally in private hands.
Throwing out the Mandate would likely turn out pushing us to the single payer system we need. It's funny, the Repubs are all for removing their own idea, an idea that would keep the HC system totally in private hands.
I agree. Individual mandates only help serve insurance companies. Its a government order that you have to buy something. Thats over 300 million customers, yippy, of course insurance companies like that.
I've said all along the bill wouldn't be repealed, and it would never go into effect in the form it was passed in.
I agree. Individual mandates only help serve insurance companies. Its a government order that you have to buy something. Thats over 300 million customers, yippy, of course insurance companies like that.
I've said all along the bill wouldn't be repealed, and it would never go into effect in the form it was passed in.
Is it possible this was Obama and the Dem plan from the beginning? Perhaps they have been thinking for the future, not, like the Repubs, for the immediate sugar high the GOP is feeling right now. That Obama, is pretty bright.
Is it possible this was Obama and the Dem plan from the beginning? Perhaps they have been thinking for the future, not, like the Repubs, for the immediate sugar high the GOP is feeling right now. That Obama, is pretty bright.
There plan from the beginning was to pass something, anything. It'd be fixed later.
This is just how Washington works. Now if they could only fix medicare part D.
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