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When the riots occurred in Los Angeles, Bill Clinton was not our president.
I've never been a tremendous fan of either of the Clintons--to put it mildly--but to blame him for rioting that occurred in California, as a result of the brutality of California police, when Bill Clinton was the Governor of Arkansas seems a little extreme.
Ok my dad, he took office one year later in 1993 though he was elected in 1992. Also police brutality does not justify people from the hood rampging through the city and attacking random civilians from other races does it? Plus many liberal states like California are heavily racially polarized partly due to the ethnic idenitty politics which has increased especially with illegal Mexicans and with Muslims post 9-11.
Recently I was surprised when a black female I work with said she was surprised by how much I hate Barack Obama and my state's liberal Democrat governor because I'm of Asian descent. She basically said that was the reason she was surprised I was anti-Obama after she saw me post negative things about the president on facebook including links about his racist preacher and his racist wife and negative things about his support for abortion.
My question for yall out there is, do you assume most Asian people are liberals like blacks and Hispanics just because we are minorities? Because many see us as foreigners vs Americans (the reason Hispanics are liberals because they support illegal immigration and have illegal alien family members and friends). Do you think non black minorities are also proud of a "minority president" and voted for him because of his race the way African Americans wanted a first "black president" and support him due to his race even though the vast majority of mainstream America now hates Obama after seeing his lies and incompetence and finally understanding his radical past and his radical leftist agenda?
This has really surprised me since I don't think Asian Americans in general are much more liberal than the average mainstream American population. Many Asians are Christians and are therefore Republicans. for example, the most important issue for me in choosing a candidate is whether they are pro-life or not, followed by their stance on illegal immigration and taxes. I would never vote for anyone who supports abortion. Also some Asian groups have negative family histories with liberals just as Chinese Americans whose ancestors survived the communist revolution, or those who have escaped from the Vietcong or have relatives living in tyranny in North Korea. I know MANY Chinese Americans my parents generation who will never vote for a Democrat the same way you will never find a Cuban American whose a Democrat. Like Cuban Americans, Vietnamese adn Korean Americans and some Chinese Americans are very consistenly Republican with most religion and family history contributing to this. Also most Asian Americans work hard for what we have and do not rely on welfare and very few of us are here illegally and oppose illegal immigration so the Democrats and liberals policies do not resonate with us much.
Oh yes and during the days of Rodney King when many Asian Americans' homes and businesses were threatened, it was the 2nd amendment that protected them not the government. Certainly not the government of the draft doging coward Bill Clinton who was too busy committing adultery and screwing his female interns.
This thread is exhibit A in the "model minority" theory
Why is it necessary to attempt to denigrate one group in an effort to elevate your own? No offense but far too many Asians have a habit of going this route in order to assert their "closer to Whiteness" and wave it as a flag of inclusion.
To presume that being as devout "Christian" is mutually exclusive with being "Republican" is absurd.
To presume to "know" the reasons why people voted one way or the other is quite arrogant.
To "cherrypick" from the minutia in order to support your flawed "theories" is ineffective.
To cap off your "arguments" with the completely irrelevant issue of the Rodney King beating and the uprising following the acquittal of the officers responsible....well that just takes us back to the "model minorty" issue.
Africanboy I was hoping more African Americans would have been more individualistic vs turning out in droves to vote Obama into office just because he has the same skin color as them. I wonder how many of these black voters actually understand much about Obama except that he is black or that he went to a black church whose pastors said that we deserved 9-11.
Interesting observation; conversely though, when black voted over 90% for Clinton, is it safe to assume that it was because they saw a white guy? It tells a compelling story when an entire race of people throughout all regions of the country have such a strong distaste for a political party. No one is naive enough to think that the majority of blacks in this country weren't rooting for Obama, but I think that the fact the he was a Democrat is more indicative of the larger looming issue of blacks not voting Republican. There are a countless number of threads here on C-D on the topic, and there you can read responses from AA as to why they do not vote Republican. Personally I have qualms with the way blacks voted in 2008, there's not much more to understand about the guy you're supporting when the other side is yelling "Go back to Kenya".
Secondly, I find it funny how you think that because you're an Asian who votes Republican, that somehow that is indicative of your whole race. Don't get me wrong, your opinion as an Asian male is worth much more than mine, but the majority of the Asian friends I have all swing to the left. Being college educated and non religious is often what puts them at odds with the rhetoric coming out of a party which is heavily influenced by Christian fundamentalists. To each his own, I'll enjoy my communist, and you enjoy your fascists. Take care.
I've never seen this before and hope that this isn't accurate, that it was just CNN's well known liberal bias. The thing is in today's political climate I don't want people to just assume I'm an Obama loving liberal because nothing could be further from the truth. I'm not even an urban person despite temporarily living in a major city for school, but I was raised in a small town and would prefer to live in a small town or at least a suburb. Even in terms of lifestyle I am heavily anti-urban. I prefer driving my own car everywhere and not have to take public transportation, prefer more funding for freeways vs public transport (which also spreads crime into suburbs) and expect to have free parking. I also happen to be an opponent of "mixed use housing" or "high density development". There have been times when I've seen someone who fits the profile of a East Coast yuppie and I immediatelyh find a distaste to them. Part of it is because of their lifestyle but a lot of it is also my assumption about theri politics and worldview and that I assume they look down on me and people similar to me because I am not a yuppie and don't come from a wealthy liberal background. On the other hand I hope Asian Americans don't have the same "liberal" reputation that African Americans and Hispanics do.
The liberal media also likes to racilize politics when in fact there are MANY prominent minoirites in the GOP like Michael Steele, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley and Marco Rubio. In fact Jindal and Haley are most of Indian descent and elected from the so-called racist hick states according to the yuppie liberals. Marco Rubio's family actually escaped from a communist country and understand the true face of liberalism.
You can't yell liberal bias about an exit polls, other exit polls back it up, as does precinct level date.
Vietnamese tend to be less Democratic than most other Asian groups, and tend to be a relatively swing block. The vast majority of other Asian groups, whether it be Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Korean, etc all tend to have a rather strong Democratic lean. Now that lean isn't nearly as strong as the Democratic lean for African Americans, but isn't that much different than the Democratic lean among Latino's. Again, not only do the exit polls back that up, but if you look into precinct data in areas that have a large Asian population you will generally see it.
One reason (though far from the only one) is that many Asians tend to put a big importance on education and having strong education system. Things like funding for public schools, actually teaching Science in Science class as opposed to trying to shove religion into Science class is something many Asians tend to feel are important.
Having worked with many Filipinos I can tell you for sure that they are generally more conservative as a group. There is a small group that is extremely liberal as well but I would estimate less that 20%. As a whole, I think that they also have strong religious and family values.
Ok my dad, he took office one year later in 1993 though he was elected in 1992. Also police brutality does not justify people from the hood rampging through the city and attacking random civilians from other races does it? Plus many liberal states like California are heavily racially polarized partly due to the ethnic idenitty politics which has increased especially with illegal Mexicans and with Muslims post 9-11.
There were tensions between blacks and Koreans in L.A. before the riots. I'm not saying the Koreans were mainly to blame for them, I tend to think the opposite, but still, it wasn't "random".
Personally, I don't assume, and have never assumed, that a specific Asian-American is going to vote any certain way. At some times in American history Asian immigrants were highly discriminated against, but not in a way that compares to the legacy of slavery.
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Recently I was surprised when a black female I work with said she was surprised by how much I hate Barack Obama and my state's liberal Democrat governor because I'm of Asian descent. She basically said that was the reason she was surprised I was anti-Obama after she saw me post negative things about the president on facebook including links about his racist preacher and his racist wife and negative things about his support for abortion.
My question for yall out there is, do you assume most Asian people are liberals like blacks and Hispanics just because we are minorities? Because many see us as foreigners vs Americans (the reason Hispanics are liberals because they support illegal immigration and have illegal alien family members and friends). Do you think non black minorities are also proud of a "minority president" and voted for him because of his race the way African Americans wanted a first "black president" and support him due to his race even though the vast majority of mainstream America now hates Obama after seeing his lies and incompetence and finally understanding his radical past and his radical leftist agenda?
This has really surprised me since I don't think Asian Americans in general are much more liberal than the average mainstream American population. Many Asians are Christians and are therefore Republicans. for example, the most important issue for me in choosing a candidate is whether they are pro-life or not, followed by their stance on illegal immigration and taxes. I would never vote for anyone who supports abortion. Also some Asian groups have negative family histories with liberals just as Chinese Americans whose ancestors survived the communist revolution, or those who have escaped from the Vietcong or have relatives living in tyranny in North Korea. I know MANY Chinese Americans my parents generation who will never vote for a Democrat the same way you will never find a Cuban American whose a Democrat. Like Cuban Americans, Vietnamese adn Korean Americans and some Chinese Americans are very consistenly Republican with most religion and family history contributing to this. Also most Asian Americans work hard for what we have and do not rely on welfare and very few of us are here illegally and oppose illegal immigration so the Democrats and liberals policies do not resonate with us much.
Oh yes and during the days of Rodney King when many Asian Americans' homes and businesses were threatened, it was the 2nd amendment that protected them not the government. Certainly not the government of the draft doging coward Bill Clinton who was too busy committing adultery and screwing his female interns.
Think about how hard is is for an Asian person to get here, illegally. Compare that difficulty with Mexico. There's a disparity there.
In my opinion Asian people are typically well educated and tend to be very intelligent people therefore a large percentage of them are conservative and do not buy into the liberal line of BS that a lot of minorities live on.
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