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View Poll Results: Control of the criminally insane, or guns?
Control or confine the criminally insane. The safety of the public is a greater good than potentially infringing on their rights. 31 68.89%
Further restrict gun ownership of law abiding people. Their rights aren't important as the appearance of doing something. 4 8.89%
Do nothing, violent crime is a price of a free society. 10 22.22%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-17-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The shooter in Tuscon has a long history of demonstrating symptoms of mental illness. This is true of most perpetrators of violent, mass attacks, rarely are the attacks the first indication that these people are a danger to others. I'm using the term "criminally insane", maybe there is a more appropriate term in todays mental health lexicon. If so, let me know and I'll change it.

My question is, what do we do about it? Can we recognize the symptoms of those that are more likely to kill others, and involentarily confine them? Mandate treatment?

Or should we take away one of many possible tools that a criminally insane person may use? Even if doing so infringes upon the rights of the vast majority of the owners of such a tool that aren't using it for evil?

Or do we just live with the status quo?
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Neither,unless we want to abridge people's rights.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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None of the above.

X Restrict gun control ownership for the dangerously mentally ill, not for "law abiding people" who are otherwise not a threat.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:51 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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None of the above.

X Restrict gun control ownership for the dangerously mentally ill, not for "law abiding people" who are otherwise not a threat.
That is the current law.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: California
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Just because someone acts odd doesn't mean they are violent, who would be the judge of wheather a person is a danger or not?
The same goes to moregun restictions what would make it safer? Laws are only followed by the non criminals.

no matter what you do nobody knows if a person is going to be violent or not and if they are they will find a way to carry it out no matter what the laws and gun restrictions are.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Denmark
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Gun ownership should be severely restricted or better yet, totally banned. That is the only way the US can become as safe as other developed nations. Americans have to realize that guns are the root of the problem, not the other way around.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:07 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Gun ownership should be severely restricted or better yet, totally banned. That is the only way the US can become as safe as other developed nations. Americans have to realize that guns are the root of the problem, not the other way around.
Are you asserting that nations with strict gun control laws have NO gun crime?
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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That is the current law.
Not really.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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What's with all the gun control threads?

He was mentally ill; his mother, having an in with the county, scrubbed his record clean. This allowed him to purchase a firearm legally. if he had a record, he wouldn't be able to buy a firearm legally.

Current gun laws are fine, albeit too controlling IMO.

FFS...Stop with your knee-jerk reactions.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Denmark
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Are you asserting that nations with strict gun control laws have NO gun crime?
Of course they do but the percentage of gun crime is very low and the murder rate is equally low. There's a correlation between handgun ownership and murder rates. The more people have guns, the more they will want to use them, the more violent the society becomes.
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