Definition of Left, Right, Libertarian, etc.... (borders, economic, versus, government)

[jamore]

Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest

Anyone that thinks liberals believe in freedom of choice in personal matters is a moron.

Anyone that thinks conservative believe in economic freedom is a moron.

If we look at what politicians in D.C do, not what they say, liberals and conservatives are both statists.

Anarchists and libertarians are the only group that beleives in both economic and personal freedom.

Libertarians are those that do not like to be called a conservative.
libertarians = conservatives.

[EuroTrashed]

Originally Posted by jamore

Libertarians are those that do not like to be called a conservative.
libertarians = conservatives.

ignorance is strength

[jamore]

Originally Posted by EuroTrashed

ignorance is strength

LOL, you conservative

add:

I'll add the only difference is the "family values" thing, otherwise, libertarian = conservative.

I'll also throw in Independents too, since most indep. are those that left the conservative party.
Independents aka tea baggers

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by Fiddlehead

I would say Mr. O is borderline liberal-centrist in political perspective. Not sure he supports high tax rates per se unless there is something for the people. He seems pretty tuned into the importance of the economy to me, even if he has spent more than some are comfortable with.

Obama thinks government is the answer to every problem. He likes big government and a big powerful federal government. Clearly, he is a Statist.

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by jamore

Libertarians are those that do not like to be called a conservative.
libertarians = conservatives.

You are way off base. Libertarians support personal freedoms that most conservatives and liberals oppose. Libertarians support the right to own guns, gay marriage, prostitution, gambling, the right to choose what drugs you will use, smoking, eating trans fats, etc, etc.

Libertarians support every freedom that both conservatives AND liberals support.

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by jamore

LOL, you conservative

add:

I'll add the only difference is the "family values" thing, otherwise, libertarian = conservative.

I'll also throw in Independents too, since most indep. are those that left the conservative party.
Independents aka tea baggers

Kinda dumb post.

THat's like saying basketball is like golf except for the way it's played.

[grimace8]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

Obama thinks government is the answer to every problem. He likes big government

maybe gov't could be IF it was efficient and in-touch with what's going on!

[EuroTrashed]

Originally Posted by grimace8

maybe gov't could be IF it was efficient and in-touch with what's going on!

If the government were that then we would all be slaves of a totalitarian state. North Korea has a very efficient government... efficient in sustaining itself that is

[OhioIstheBest]

Originally Posted by grimace8

that word scares me

Anarchy simply means lack of government. Nothing to be scared of.

The statists have kind of redefined it to mean chaos and/or violence. Anrachy has nothing to do with either.

For example, when the Iranian government was cracking down on protestors a year or so ago the U.S. govt and media was calling it anarchy. SInce it involved a government (Iran) it had nothing to do with anarchy.

[3ntr0py]

Originally Posted by Fiddlehead

I would say Mr. O is borderline liberal-centrist in political perspective. Not sure he supports high tax rates per se unless there is something for the people. He seems pretty tuned into the importance of the economy to me, even if he has spent more than some are comfortable with.

Are you kidding me?

Obama is a radical left-wing. Nothing in his policies make him moderate. He really needs to be replaced in 2012