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Old 02-13-2011, 07:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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How is granting permission to the people, a government run by the people?

As an adult human being, there is no one above me to grant me permission, but GOD himself.

A collaboration to become the GOD in our lives, by granting you, an individual, permission to live on Earth and in the nation the call the USA.

I don't think that is how this nation was visioned to be.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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See: Constitution of the United States - Official
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:47 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Granting permission is the things Kings and Dictators are made of.

A Free Society ruled by man, not men.

There is no freedom, when permission has to be granted.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Permission - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Permission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Which leads one to look up Authorization and permitted/permit.

That leads you to Sanctions and Allow

Those lead to Personal Opinion
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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How is granting permission to the people, a government run by the people?

As an adult human being, there is no one above me to grant me permission, but GOD himself.

A collaboration to become the GOD in our lives, by granting you, an individual, permission to live on Earth and in the nation the call the USA.

I don't think that is how this nation was visioned to be.
The way I see it, unless it is a right enumerated in the constitution, we have formed a more perfect union and a government to regulate what is best for society based on mutually agreed upon boundries of conduct.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the way I see your viewpoint is total anarchy. You feel that you can do anything you want for yourself or to anybody at any time without censure as it is God who grants you total immunity from the rule of law. If I got it wrong, please educate me.
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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As an adult human being, there is no one above me to grant me permission, but GOD himself.
Is this statement true?

You being a part of the community that I also live in, I give you permission to live the way you do, just as you give me permission to live the way I want to. I can say that you can't marry your sibling, and if enough of our compatriots agree, you can't.

So, everyone that you live with, beside, among, at odds with, etc. give you tacit approval to live the way you do, as long as you do the same for them. And they also limit you in what you want to do, just as you do them.

If you think that's God at work, so be it. It is divine in the way it works.
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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Perhaps the OP could be more specific?

The people either give consent to be governed, or, they withdraw consent.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The way I see it, unless it is a right enumerated in the constitution, we have formed a more perfect union and a government to regulate what is best for society based on mutually agreed upon boundries of conduct.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the way I see your viewpoint is total anarchy. You feel that you can do anything you want for yourself or to anybody at any time without censure as it is God who grants you total immunity from the rule of law. If I got it wrong, please educate me.



If we disagree, there is discussion. Who are you to grant me, or anyone permission to do anything I wish. If we can't come to a peaceful conclusion to our problems, you eliminate me or I eliminate you and the problem is solved.

It use to be a dual with ball pistols, if you wanted to be civil about it.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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What a strange OP. There is something above you but below God, and that's the law. I agree with the above that you're talking about being an anarchist.

We voluntary cede a degree of our individual power to the collective (organized by government) to protect the highest good of all. If you live in a rural area, I could see how you could convince yourself of this "I'm the king of the world" stuff, but try living in a city. You'll realize quickly how valuable it is to have laws that control the actions of others to keep the overall society functioning safely and efficiently for everything from making too much noise to building some monstrocity that negatively impacts a neighborhood.

As a small example, you don't have the right to stop your car in the middle of the highway during rush hour. If you do, you will block traffic and negatively impact others' lives. The law demands that you keep moving at a minimum speed whenever possible.
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