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Old 02-25-2011, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Harrison, OH
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I'd also consider Germany, mostly because I have family there I could stay by.
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Canada. It is basically a cleaner United States without all the kookiness!

LOL....We have our share of kooks here too, but it is mostly cleaner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ic3xNfEP_o
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Old 02-25-2011, 10:06 PM
 
Location: You Ta Zhou
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Didn't a huge contingent of the CIA just relocate there to underground offices? It has been said that it is least predisposed to natural disasters or best positioned in case they occur.
I don't know about that. I go there pretty much every summer to see my relatives, and it seems it always floods or has tornadoes when I'm there. Maybe just bad luck, but I've never had such nasty weather in any other state. But Missouri has interesting things, Branson's cool, the natural scenery is better than other parts of the Midwest. It's not my top pick, though.
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Old 02-25-2011, 10:22 PM
 
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The United States is most likely the worst country. We are easily the most problematic country and have caused the most death and destruction in the world post world war II. We've caused so much pain in so many peoples' lives, I don't know how you can possibly think the US is even close to #1. What statistics do you base that on? We aren't #1 in any single metric including freedom of religion, freedom of speech, health education, press, etc.

"When you aren't #1 in anything, waving the big, foam #1 finger kinda makes us look like idiots." Bill Maher

USA! take away all the libs and it would be utopia!
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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I'd say Canada........ specifically....Vancouver, British Columbia......a socially progressive country.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:42 PM
 
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The United States of America.
Currently its still has a Constitution which limits what the role of government is.
Now we can just get people elected who follow it the sooner we will be back on track.
I have to rep you for this one. The US Constitution is the most important human document ever written. More than the Magna Carta, the Rights of Man, or any other. If it is overthrown by tyranny, the world will enter a new dark age.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:44 PM
 
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It doesn't matter who you elect, the politicians will serve special interests before yours.
Yes. That is the problem.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:46 PM
 
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I'd also consider Germany, mostly because I have family there I could stay by.
Germany's good, but private health insurance is very expensive; almost as high as the US.
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I have to rep you for this one. The US Constitution is the most important human document ever written. More than the Magna Carta, the Rights of Man, or any other. If it is overthrown by tyranny, the world will enter a new dark age.
Have you read the USCON?
It's not the the "most important" human document -- not by a long shot.

It's an internal reorganization of a foreign corporation called the United States, in Congress assembled. The States united hired it to act as their agent, and referee disputes.

However, within it, there is ONE "most important" idea - though not 1 in 10,000 Americans know of it.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;....
[United States Constitution, Article 4, Section 4]

GOVERNMENT (Republican Form of Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people,... directly...

- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695

In America, however, the case is widely different. Our government is founded upon compact. Sovereignty was, and is, in the people.
[ Glass vs The Sloop Betsey, 3 Dall 6 (1794)]

"It will be admitted on all hands that with the exception of the powers granted to the states and the federal government, through the Constitutions, the people of the several states are unconditionally sovereign within their respective states."
Ohio L. Ins. & T. Co. v. Debolt, 16 How. 416, 14 L.Ed. 997
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As far as I can determine, there is only ONE NATION that has a republican form, in which the PEOPLE are the sovereigns - not the government.

Sadly, most Americans left it for the democratic socialist form, via enrollment in FICA. For all practical purposes, it died in 1933, and we are at the threshold of the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America - sans that pesky charter of negative liberties.


Emergency Powers Statutes, Senate Report SR 93-549, November 19, 1973
Senate Report 93-549
War and Emergency Powers Acts

"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (since 1933), freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency."

There you have it - - - since 1933, the "emergency" has been the excuse for government to cease complying with the USCON.

Don't believe me - go write a polite letter to "your" government servants and ask them to explain what has taken them so long to end it.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:07 AM
 
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Have you read the USCON? yes

It's not the the "most important" human document -- not by a long shot.

OK, what is in your opinion?
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