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I think that these boys should be locked into a confined facility, get medical and mental health help, and hopefully use them to understand how people could do this, and maybe find a way to rehabilitate them. .
After decades of trying the nice guy approach, with nothing but failure after failure, when will you admit that "rehabilition" doesn't work?
Execution is a fine deterrant. No one that has been executed has ever reoffended. Far better success rate than "rehab".
The National Socialists were a political party. This was a savage raping. One need not be compared to the other. Might as well call it the Clockwork Orange party.
Amen. I don't see where the Nazi's even factor in with this gang rape. The Nazi movement started slowly and grew into a national political movement. Hiltler was after all a wonderful speaker and swayed the people very easily.
After decades of trying the nice guy approach, with nothing but failure after failure, when will you admit that "rehabilition" doesn't work?
Execution is a fine deterrant. No one that has been executed has ever reoffended. Far better success rate than "rehab".
Not that I agree with Memphis on this particular subject, but where is your proof that rehabilitation never works? Where is your evidence that "once a criminal, always a criminal" applies to every person that ever entered the prison system?
And if we're going to execute rapists, why not execute every offender?
Don't quote me if you're going to put words in mouth. I wasn't lightening the severity of anything. I'm merely stating that the older offenders should receive a stiffer penalty.
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Most of the suspects are 17-19. I would hardly call them men. Just dumb kids that will pay dearly for their actions. For the suspects over 21, I think castration is a fit punishment.
Raping an 11 year old girl is not cause by stupidity and immaturity..
Dumb kids steal a car, egg a house... not force themselves on a tiny little girl and rape her..
You call them "just dumb kids" So I dont put words in your mouth why dont you explain yourself??
As far as I am concerned they are devient sexual predators. Not "just dumb kids"
And because you think it is just an "opinion"... explain to me whay you think a sexual predator cant sexually assault just because they have been castrated?
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And if we're going to execute rapists, why not execute every offender?
Because of recidivism rates with sexual predators.. they cant be cured.
Again, your comments are as if you dont understand there is a difference between people who commit sexual assault and rape little children with those who shop lift..
And if you cant comprehend the difference then you have serious issues
After decades of trying the nice guy approach, with nothing but failure after failure, when will you admit that "rehabilition" doesn't work?
Execution is a fine deterrant. No one that has been executed has ever reoffended. Far better success rate than "rehab".
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There is no need to provide a "civilized" answer to these animals. Execute them as soon as possible and take them out of the gene pool. That is Darwinian selection at it's finest.
Anyone who says death is not a deterent, clearly is not accepting reality.
Most rapes are by repeat offenders. Repeat violent offenders have less than half of one percent of rehabitualization.
Raping an 11 year old girl is not cause by stupidity and immaturity..
Dumb kids steal a car, egg a house... not force themselves on a tiny little girl and rape her..
You call them "just dumb kids" So I dont put words in your mouth why dont you explain yourself??
As far as I am concerned they are devient sexual predators. Not "just dumb kids"
You're reading way too much into my words. Maybe "dumb kids" wasn't the right phrase to choose, but what I was essentially saying is that those older offenders should receive stiffer penalties simply because they know better. Those 17 and 18 year old kids do not truly understand the severity of what they did. They're only 6 or 7 years older than the girl and probably thought it was funny. I know this because I grew up with boys just like them and things similar to this incident weren't out of the ordinary. What they did was DEAD WRONG, but they're still stupid kids, not full grown men who have the true capacity to understand the consequences of their actions.
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And because you think it is just an "opinion"... explain to me whay you think a sexual predator cant sexually assault just because they have been castrated?
Show me where I said that.
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Because of recidivism rates with sexual predators.. they cant be cured.
Like I told the other guy, prove to me that there's no such thing as rehabilitation.
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Again, your comments are as if you dont understand there is a difference between people who commit sexual assault and rape little children with those who shop lift..
I honestly do not believe that execution is a justified punishment for rape. Sue me.
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And if you cant comprehend the difference then you have serious issues
I fully understand the difference; no need to be insulting.
The best punishment (reward) for these criminals would be they are given the homes next door to the bleeding heart liberals that seem to wish to justify by excuse the crimes committed. And those same BHL's can carpool with them to work so they'll have a nice place to work, too.
Seems a fair compensation for the way these poor guys were kept down by the 'man'.
Judge them without mercy, without a psychiatric excuses, no "too young to know what they did", no racist white people on the jury, etc.
We as black people have to when when to jettison those that would gleefully and with malice destrou the communities they live in.
They will have much bragging rights on the street if for any reason they walk. If I were on their jury I'd wait just long enough to get a free lunch before I vote guilty on every charge from CSC to bad hair day.
We would owe this to society in general and the black community specifically.
I don't think that we can simply let them free, but killing them is extreme in my opinion.
The problem with the idea that punishment is a deterrent is simply a false idea.
Correct. The best deterrent is a high probability of getting caught.
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