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Old 04-18-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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As a progressive, let me say you have absolutely NO CLUE about what I stand for. Here are a few hints:
- I propose dismantling of the idea that corporations are people.
- I end up in defense of the minorities, gays, secularism, public welfare, a government that is supposed to work for the people, against the broad brushed ideas of immigrants, of race, ethnicity, language, nationalism.
- I've denounced gerrymandering.

And somehow you see these in Fascists and Nazis. Holy cow! I would LOVE to see evidence of such actions from them. Really!
-The idea that 'corporations are people' is a legal fiction. It's purpose is to encourage investment by limiting risk only to the assets in the corporation lest the personal assets (homes, cars, pensions, the kids' education funds) of the owners be liable to a taking in a lawsuit. Would you buy shares of stock in a company trying to advance wind or solar power if you knew that you could be sued for your house if that company lost a lawsuit?

-If you end up in defense of minorities by advocating legalized racism (aka Affirmative Action) you merely harm one group in favor of another. That's hardly fair minded.

-Both major parties gerrymander.
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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-The idea that 'corporations are people' is a legal fiction. It's purpose is to encourage investment by limiting risk only to the assets in the corporation lest the personal assets (homes, cars, pensions, the kids' education funds) of the owners be liable to a taking in a lawsuit. Would you buy shares of stock in a company trying to advance wind or solar power if you knew that you could be sued for your house if that company lost a lawsuit?

-If you end up in defense of minorities by advocating legalized racism (aka Affirmative Action) you merely harm one group in favor of another. That's hardly fair minded.

-Both major parties gerrymander.
- The legal fiction has taken the shape of a real person. I don't support it. A corporation is an artificial entity and should be treated as such.

- Someone is ALWAYS going to be harmed by laws. I would rather see the "victims" be the oppressors. Having said that, I saw the need for Affirmative Action but with limits, a time line. The world isn't as black and white to me as it appears is to you.

- Good defense.
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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As a progressive, let me say you have absolutely NO CLUE about what I stand for. Here are a few hints:
- I propose dismantling of the idea that corporations are people.
-!
meanwhile you support unions which are corporations
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Old 04-18-2011, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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meanwhile you support unions which are corporations
And I don't play games treating them differently than the typical corporation. It is simply an organization of people who get together to promote and protect their interests.

PS. Going through your post #63 would have been a waste of time, considering the points you should be worried about in this thread (and when responding to my post) would be the one that start with the thread. If you want about communism, feel free to start a new thread.
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Old 04-18-2011, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Actasulkly Fascism was a form of sociaqlism and it was sold to the geramn people as such. It and the communist party who was alreqady i place were mortal enemeies for the working classes both where sold to.Its just another centralized control govenmnet form that control the means of prodcution and the fruits of production to control the society. They then satrt putting social controls i place as they have the power to do it.Its ussally sold to the anry mob because they will buy anyhtig that sounds good and of course supported by the elite in the party because its pure power to do what they wish.Power always corrupts and tatal power totally corrupts is what history shows.
Actually much of the National Socialist Party in Germany had it's roots in Socialism like the SA Peoples Army that the German Army was afraid of. It wasn't until Hitlers deal with Bush representing Krupp Thyssen gave him enough seats in the Reichstag and the Operation Hummingbird Purge that they arrested the Communists and Socialists
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Old 04-18-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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Fascists were against Educators, UNIONS, Abortions, Gays, Believed in Symbolism like Flag PINS!, believe corporations should have power...


reMIND you of anyone? YES! Republicans and TeaBaggers
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Old 04-18-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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Fascists were against Educators, UNIONS, Abortions, Gays, Believed in Symbolism like Flag PINS!, believe corporations should have power...


reMIND you of anyone? YES! Republicans and TeaBaggers
Correction: Fascists USED Education to indoctrinate children, similar to how our government has been progressively grasping a hold on our youth via the Federal Dept. of Education and the Public Schools of Indoctrication.
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Old 04-18-2011, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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- I propose dismantling of the idea that corporations are people.
-!

Who says that corporations are people ?????

Clearly, they are a collection of people.

So what law would you change?
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Old 04-18-2011, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Fascists were against Educators, UNIONS, Abortions, Gays, Believed in Symbolism like Flag PINS!, believe corporations should have power...


reMIND you of anyone? YES! Republicans and TeaBaggers
uhm

fascists BELIEVED in centralized education paid by the taxpayer
fascist were pro-union...they were against private unions wanted everybody to be part of the public union
fascists were FOR abortion (eugentics programing of the liberals)
and yes symbolism...like "hope and change" and "yes we can"
and unions are corporations


liberals = progressives = fascists
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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uhm

fascists BELIEVED in centralized education paid by the taxpayer
fascist were pro-union...they were against private unions wanted everybody to be part of the public union
fascists were FOR abortion (eugentics programing of the liberals)
and yes symbolism...like "hope and change" and "yes we can"
and unions are corporations


liberals = progressives = fascists
Then why did Thyssen Krupps attorney (Prescott Bush) cut a deal with Hitler to get him the Right Wing votes he needed to become Chancellor
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