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Did Republicans control the Mass. legislature when Romneycare was passed? I don't think so but maybe they did.
Hardly. Romney vetoed 8 sections of our current healthcare law only to be overridden by the moonbat controlled legislature. That's a fact that's not discussed very often.
So then Republicans should repeal it. Try it. I dare you.
There's no need for that. The courts will take care of it. Obama is already committing an impeachable offense by ignoring the current court orders to halt the implementation of Barry Care. However, we can't impeach him for violating the law because that might be racist....
If Obamacare is front and center, then that means that your strongest repub candidate can't be elected as repub candidate because his massachusetts plan is what Obamacare was modelled after. since the other repubs are relatively weak, O gets re-elected. YEA!
healthcare is a STATE responsibility
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So then Republicans should repeal it. Try it. I dare you.
I already have filed a lawsuit against Obamacare to have it repealed. What else would you like me to do?
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And 54% approve of it?
With numbers like that it is a law that will stay around in whatever form.
We're not a nation of majority rules. You do know that, right? This nation was founded on protection of the minority..
Now, as I recall, there was supposed to be a mega support group, flush with cash to defend and tout obamacare, with political bigwigs, The Swimmer's widow and Anita "Mao" Dunn, obama's former comm director, but seems the windows have been shuttered.
The Kaiser poll mentioned, 46% disapprove of the law.
I think its safe to say that obamacare grows even more unpopular as more and more learn all the nasty details, all the lies, all the budgetary tricks and gimmicks.
And the kicker - ruled unconstitutional. I would imagine voters will be very unforgiving to lawmakers who pushed this monstrosity through on a party line vote.
And don't think for even a nanosecond that obamacare won't be front and center for 2012.
If Obamacare is so popular, why do so many groups get an exclusion so they don't have to follow parts of it...
If Obamacare is front and center, then that means that your strongest repub candidate can't be elected as repub candidate because his massachusetts plan is what Obamacare was modelled after. since the other repubs are relatively weak, O gets re-elected. YEA!
Big difference between a state HC plan and one for the entire country.
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And 54% approve of it?
With numbers like that it is a law that will stay around in whatever form.
Is that how you think a given poll works? No, on the Kaiser poll, 46% disapprove, 42% approve. Just because 46% disapprove, doesn't mean the difference from 100% approve.
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If Obamacare is so popular, why do so many groups get an exclusion so they don't have to follow parts of it...
They are getting waivers, because otherwise these groups would have to stop offering HC plans that don't meet obama's minimum standard benefit, they would have to dump all the employees currently on such plans OR raise premiums an astronomical amount that people can't afford.
The CNN Poll in OP needs a bit more clarity than the OPer would care about (considering it would defeat the purpose of the thread).
While 37% support it (as is), 13% (recorded under "oppose it", and I would fit in this category if included in the survey) feel it doesn't go far enough. In other words, 50% of America either support it as is or feel it needs to go farther.
There's no need for that. The courts will take care of it. Obama is already committing an impeachable offense by ignoring the current court orders to halt the implementation of Barry Care. However, we can't impeach him for violating the law because that might be racist....
This has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum and other places. By having a stay imposed on the latest ruling, the healthcare reform law is still the law of the land. So he is 100% in the right in continuing to enforce it.
My gut says that the Supreme Court will strike down the mandate clause. What happens to the rest of it, I don't know. That depends if the Supreme Court views that as the foundation or a separate part alone.
50% favor or want it expanded and 46% disapprove of it, and some think that means it is unpopular? Makes one understand why some people think Repubs tell the truth, they don't know what truth is.
The Obama-haters will be quoting these polls until his last day in office January 19, 2017.
....and the amount of "exempt" entities that don't have to participate will be past, what, 5,000? 6,000???
Funny how the supporters seemingly miss this glaring "NO CONFIDENCE" vote on Obamacare.
Silly me - I forget having critical thinking skills makes me an enemy of the state!
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